3500 BD Deal... continued

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Some of you might remember the boat I purchased on BD a while ago...

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/the-3500-bd-deal.556483/

Bitchen little boat. I'd never heard of an Invader 17V (aka Fisherman or Reef Runners), but it has a deep v, foam filled and rides great in the Socal water. Dry and stable make it a nice platform. Small enough to get in tight as well.

Fast forward a while and it was time to get the ghosts from the machine. Too many issues on and off of the water to enjoy the boat. It became more process than sport. I thought about starting fresh or going new, but I dig the boat and wanted to do it right. Did this with my camper years ago and still use the snot out of it. Might as well do it with the Invader. Spent months researching a motor, the right glass shop (I've got no spare time), different configurations, consoles, storage options and amassing the cash to make it all happen.

In the mean time the boat's last voyage in current condition, my wife dresses up the boat in more crap than I could imagine for the Villa Park Dry Land Boat Parade:
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We won a prize, don'tcha know.
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Then it sat in my driveway as yard art and Christmas lights to make nice nice with my neighbors; their houses can be seen from the moon during Christmas and I don't put up lights. Every year they give me shit for it. This year they got more than they bargained for. Shizam. Take that, neighbors:

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First couple of weeks in January hit and time to go. Strip off everything from the deck and make this happen:

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Off to 40 Grit's shop in Santa Ana, Finco Fab. Great dude and great shop.

Starting to rip out the floor only to find everything is rotten:

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Time to get seriously naked:
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After a couple of weeks chucking ideas back and forth, and Steve's consulting with other pretty serious boat dudes, we decide to enclose the transom, throw on a bracket and push the new outboard to the back forty. BTW, this dude has big seriously big clamps:

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Apparently he wanted two more. Either that or he is a peace spending my money.

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Either way we are good.

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Slater

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Congrats on taking it to the next level as we discussed, should be sweet when she done!
 
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Those dam clamps must weigh in at 60 lbs! I have never seen anything that dam big!
 
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Transom is sealed and a couple of layers of glass on the hull to firm it up. Once pulled apart there was tons of slop. That is starting to go away.

Starting to lay the below deck structure this weekend and the new 75 gallon tank.

Ordered some storage solutions that should hit mid week.
 
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Wow, 75 gal. that's a lot on a 17'er, I like your thinking. What's the set back ( in inches ) on the bracket, and what is the new repower,,,gregg
 
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We are working on set back numbers now. Going to most likely hang an Evinrude ETEC 150 with a kicker. May go the 175 but still up on the air on size.
 
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I see the stringers and cap are removed and it's sitting on the trailer. You don't have any flexing or twisting of the hull while working inside the boat? I ask because I have concerns of that when I get to that stage on my project that I'm just starting,,,gregg
 
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The boat was stripped on the trailer. Once pulled off and blocked up it sat more true.
 
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Met with Tom at Warner Marine yesterday. Great guy and real pro. We talked about the project for a bit and he gave me his thoughts. He also talked me out of a kicker. I gained serious respect and trust from a guy saving me $2500 and costing him the same amount.

I was going to buy the new motor from Advanced Marine but they couldn't get their shit together and get me a written quote after four requests. Finco had heard not good things about them as well and recommended Warner. Good call.
 
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Slater

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I agree, you're going to have a reliable rig when done along with VA...
Dealing with a kicker on a regular basis along with most likely having to adjust trim tabs to keep her from not leaning due to added off-center weight isnt worth it....
The theory of a kicker sounds great but dont think you will ever really use it much.
 
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More stuff completed today. Hull was capped with the Invader body lines and the casting deck refitted. It will still look like an Invader center console, and have the lines but be completely one off. Everything had to be reinforced as all structure was rotted. Stringers have been located on the hull and are being built. The Swiss transom is filled (there were seriously at least twenty holes that were gooped back there from years of different owners).


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Plug together wiring harness and switches came in yesterday. We used to use something like this in Jeeps for years made by Painless Mfg. It made making major changes to a harness easy and clean. I could only find one company that has a plug and play marine harness that is labeled and diagrammed out. Great business opportunity for some electrical shop. I will unpack this over the weekend after working on the trailer and show more of what it offers.
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Storage solutions to help design the stern/transom area should be here tomorrow. The idea is that the entire back of the boat will be enclosed Plano boxes and drawers/cabinets. As the boat lives indoors when not in use, the tackle can stay there also.

We were having a roadblock or two on the leaning post and bait tank configuration, but an oddly conceived hook up through my industry (I am not in the maritime industry or anything close) appeared yesterday with a one off solution. We get to explore more of this on Friday along with grabbing my trailer to get on refurbing that as well.

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love what your doing!! who makes the plug together wiring harness you are using?
 
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The harness is made by this company: http://www.ezacdc.com/boat-wiring-products/boat-wiring-harness/

Kind of a goofy website that runs you in circles, but the quality of the product is very good. I've dug through what they sent over and I'm impressed. With the amount of hours it would have taken me to lay out a sano harness, fuse and resistor, label, color code, diagram and fit plugs on, they've easily saved me the money spent.

Just checked tracking and the first parts of storage are at my office today. Finally get to draw out the transom and get ahead of the build. Photos to follow this afternoon.
 
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More progress done.

Brought home from the glass shop and struggled to find a bracket builder. Everyone seems to be prepping for another banner year. Ordered a 24" setback 14* bracket from A&J Marine Welding in Florida after striking out locally a few times. Seems you can get anything for a center console in Florida.

Also picked up a leaning post there and pretty happy with price and quality, along with a center console. Was originally going to splice and dice the CC and add in about eight inches. After having it up in the boat for a bit, I liked the extra room. Started playing with what I'm spec'ing on the boat and decided that space was key over a 12" Simrad. Downgrading to a 9" Simrad so that I have room for everything. Got the switch panel locked in and how starting to pull wiring.

While waiting for the bracket and bait tank being built, started on the transom storage. Going to learn to glass and glass in the back storage compartment area and cover. Can't be that difficult, can it?

After I mount the tank and lines, it goes to the fuel tank vendor to have the tank built, then to gel. Don't want to miss this year.
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Thanks. I really want to post this so that there is info on these boats on the interneck. You have to search long and hard to find anything on Invader Reef Runners and I wanted to share what they are and can be done with them.

They are big little boats and really great platforms.
 
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Are you concerned about the extra weight you are adding?
 
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Regarding weight, The boat is going to be lighter before the motor is added. I've pulled all of the foam out which was considerably heavy and water logged and replaced with sealed air chambers, downsized the CC by a significant amount, lightened the seat, putting in a smaller and more efficient bait system and moving batteries forward under the casting deck.

All in all I'm expecting the boat to lose a the weight of a fat guy before I add the motor.
 
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Just realized what boat that is. I Spent many hours and pulled many hoops on that boat! It's got good juju! Glad to see it getting rebuilt.
 
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Finishing filling all of the screw holes in the hull and cap. Looks like she's been apart before. Then going to mate the cap to the hull with 5200 and ss bolts and nuts. However, I need to fix a hard hit on the hull.

Any suggestions on how to glass this type of ding in?

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I'm no expert but based on plugging a transducer hole in my hull I'd say you could clamp a smooth surface backer board larger than the defect and covered with packing tape or a release agent of some sort behind the hole and then glass it in with mat and cloth and epoxy resin. You may want to bevel the edge back more than the defect is already beveled. After it sets up cut off the excess FRP patch that hangs past the edge of the cap. Do a final fill coat with microlight in the epoxy to make sanding to a real smooth surface easier and then spray on some color matched gelcoat or see if you can find some one part polyurethane paint that is a good color match. If you had access to work from the backside of the defect you could turn it all around and place the smooth backer board on the outside surface. You'd have to bevel the edges back the other direction working from the backside. Check out the West System epoxy website - they have tutorials that might cover this sort of repair. Good luck.
 
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$3,500is turning to $35,000 ;-) Nice work getting her fixed up
 
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