30# rod choice for fly lining / casting sardines

Dexter Outdoors
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Well let’s see them Calstars.

Also a second thing to note. To me personally, I feel like the 670C, which is a firmer rod then a 270C, is able to just fish 30lb if you’re on big fish, like 60lbs and heavier. The 270-8H is just a 270C with an extra wrap of glass, and more material distributed in the blank. It can fish 30lb great, especially on smaller fish. But bigger fish... ehh. Personally I like a 6470C or H. A good 8ft rod is either the PH D8 or 800M.

I personally think the 800M may be the only rod on the market with the idea of being a heavy 30lb rod.
 

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Calstar 800M. A all time classic. From bottom fish to exotics

I have a factory wrapped 800m from 15 years ago, rewrap guides with different colors. For life
 

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Love bob Sands Tackle! Stopped by and picked up a Terminator and a Mega last week on the way to the Polaris Supreme trip on Saturday. Fabulous service. Great store. The people make the store. Not the other way around.

Fish report. Rough. 25-35 knots. 8-10 foot seas. 9 fish landed for 24 anglers. 7 fish lost. 3 on kite, 4 on 8-12 oz flat falls or Ahi's, 3 on 8-10 oz sinker rigs. Aliyar is the real deal.
 
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Hi everyone, what a great forum. Lots of knowledgeable users and great info here. I’m hoping to get some advice on a good 7’6” – 8’ rod blank for 30# leader for fly lining and casting sardines well out away from the boat during a picky tuna bite.

I don’t have any experience with the new composite and graphite blanks, and I don't have anywhere near me where I can go pull on one. Do any of them cast a sardine as well as the old school glass rods like 270h and similar, but still offer good lifting power during a fight with a 25 – 50 pound tuna? I’m hoping the answer is yes as I like the idea of the lighter, smaller diameter blanks. My priorities are:
  1. A tip that is sensitive enough to gently cast a sardine a long way
  2. Good lifting power, but not super-fast (I’m an old guy with a bad lower back and not as strong as I used to be)
  3. As light in weight and small in diameter as possible (but not at the expense of castability)
  4. Budget not really an issue, just looking for the best blank
I’ve done a little searching and the blanks that have jumped out at me are listed below. Would really appreciate input from those who have experience fishing these rods on which would be best for my needs. Would one of these be a good choice, or am I best sticking with the tried and true glass blanks like Calstar 270h? Are there any other blanks I should consider?
  • UC US 76 Tilefish Jr
  • UC CE 800 Mega
  • UC CE 800 Monster (not sure whether this one or the Mega would be better for 30#)
  • Calstar GF800M
Thanks guyseeker 6480 hands down 30-40
 
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Love bob Sands Tackle! Stopped by and picked up a Terminator and a Mega last week on the way to the Polaris Supreme trip on Saturday. Fabulous service. Great store. The people make the store. Not the other way around.

Fish report. Rough. 25-35 knots. 8-10 foot seas. 9 fish landed for 24 anglers. 7 fish lost. 3 on kite, 4 on 8-12 oz flat falls or Ahi's, 3 on 8-10 oz sinker rigs. Aliyar is the real deal.
If you get the chance chatting with Jamie @fishordie then its like you had a bonus😉
 
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I'm one more vote for old-school; 2708H. I used to pair it with a Newell but I recently switched to a Penn Fathom II 25PG. I'm no expert, but my take on this setup is that it's great for casting and I don't really need max lifting power for 25-50# fish.
 
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Avaldes

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I recently decided to upgrade my bait rods. My all time favorite was a Calstar 870c with my Newell 332-5. I would fish that with 25 or 30. Unfortunately that combo was stolen from my storage unit.

Fast forward to about a month ago when I went to pull on the various UC rods. For 30lb I was looking at the Megas and started with the CE-80 and it felt WAY softer/parabolic compared to my old rod. Not bad but just not what I was looking for, too much bend thru the upper grip. The US-80 was stiffer and much closer, and the GP-80 felt perfect, if not a little bit faster/stiffer than the old 870.

I repeated the same exercise with the intention of fishing 40lb and found the GP-80 Monster felt right.
 
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Sheephead Ed

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Hey Ed, thanks for the info. What is the action like on the RGP80 Mega?
Action is medium fast....caught a good size Yellowtail at Coronados

Yellowtail.jpg
 
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tingo777

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Not looking to hijack, but this seems like the right thread to ask this question—
I’m going on my second LR trip this summer—8 day on the Excel. I’m planning on the following as my 20-30lb setup-a rig I was missing on my first trip:

Penn Fathom 15LD + Daiwa Proteus 76MHF

Do you folks with more experience than me think this is a decent setup?

I live a long way from CA, so I have to ship all my stuff—so nothing over 8ft. And because I’m not going all the time, I’m trying to buy gear more in the ‘value’ side of things—plenty of fly rods and hunting gear that take a bite from my budget at home.

Next setup, 30-40lb: - Fathom 25NLD2 + Graftech GOF78M

Thanks!
 
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jigsaurus

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    That setup is good for 20-25 lb action. I'm not sure how much your gonna use that on an 8 day trip. As for your next setup with the fathom 25 nld2, I would that on a calstar 6480 or something rated for 30-60. That would a solid 30 or 40 pound rig. On your 8 day trip you might go to the ridge and be fishing lots of yellowtail and yellowfin and your fathom 25 setup will be handy for those fish.
     
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    hucklongfin

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    Not looking to hijack, but this seems like the right thread to ask this question—
    I’m going on my second LR trip this summer—8 day on the Excel. I’m planning on the following as my 20-30lb setup-a rig I was missing on my first trip:

    Penn Fathom 15LD + Daiwa Proteus 76MHF

    Do you folks with more experience than me think this is a decent setup?

    I live a long way from CA, so I have to ship all my stuff—so nothing over 8ft. And because I’m not going all the time, I’m trying to buy gear more in the ‘value’ side of things—plenty of fly rods and hunting gear that take a bite from my budget at home.

    Next setup, 30-40lb: - Fathom 25NLD2 + Graftech GOF78M

    Thanks!
    The Fathom 15 will do 30#. The rod is too light. I’d want the 76hf for fishing 30#.
     
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