3-in-1 AND B175HW Ducers on a Lowrance HDS12 Live?

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Ok, like the title says can I run two transducers (3-in-1 and a B175 HW) simultaneously on my HDS12 live?

I currently have a 3-in-1 ducer that works great for side scanning structure. I want a clearer picture on the sonar, so I’m looking to add one of the flavors of the 175HW (B or SS) with the Navico/Xsonic connector on it.

I have two 9-pin transducer ports, one blue (channel 1, port 6) one black (channel 2, port 7). The install manual clearly states the 3-in-1 needs to go on channel2/port 7, which is where it is currently connected. See attached picture.

Can I attach the 175HW to the blue port (channel 1) and will the ducer be recognized? Kinda looks to me that both ducers need to go to port 7. I called Lowrance, and whoever they farm their tech support out to were clueless—tried two times. Called Airmar. They said call Lowrance 🤦‍♂️.

Can I run these two ducers simultaneously? Need the 3-in-1 for structure scan and the 175HW for up and down.

A bud does exactly this on an EVO3, with the Airmar on the Blue/Channel 1 port. Problem is, on the Simrad at least, both ports seem to be Xsonic. Not sure if that’s the case with the Lowrance. The Black port (Channel2) is Xsonic, but I’m not sure about the blue (Channel 1) port. See the picture of the ports.

Thanks.

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Do you have a mix and match cable on your 175hw? If so I believe you can get a mix and match cable with the blue navico connector
 
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From a pin layout standpoint, the blue and black connectors appear identical. I haven’t bought the B or SS175HW yet. I’ll get it either with the mix and match cable or with a Navico/Xsonic connector.
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It looks like you can. Your structurescan transducer will plug into the 9 pin Xsonic connector (port 7) and your 175HW goes into the 7 pin connector (port 6). You can splice a 7 pin connector to the end of the transducer.
 
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I have a Simrad evo3, yes all you need is a 175hw with the Xsonic 9pin end or a mix and match 175 with the Xsonic adapter pigtail.

I’m running a 2in1 and an HW on my 12” and a M on my 9” networked together. 2in1 for me vs. the 3in1 as I’m running the 175M and they would interfere, otherwise the exact same set up and it works great.

AI will got in black port, HW in blue port. They are both 9 pin not 7 as someone mentioned above
 

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I have a Simrad evo3, yes all you need is a 175hw with the Xsonic 9pin end or a mix and match 175 with the Xsonic adapter pigtail.

I’m running a 2in1 and an HW on my 12” and a M on my 9” networked together. 2in1 for me vs. the 3in1 as I’m running the 175M and they would interfere, otherwise the exact same set up and it works great.

AI will got in black port, HW in blue port. They are both 9 pin not 7 as someone mentioned above
You have to be careful when you compare your Simrad to the Lowrance unit. They use different connectors.

Look at the back of his unit. On the Lowrance HDS12 Live series, the second port from the end (port 6) is still a blue port. The 9 pin connector will not fit. On your Simrad EVO3 series and higher, they changed both transducer to 9 pin connectors. The EVO2 series still had the blue connector on one port.

They do make a 9 pin to 7 pin adapter. If he buys the 175HW with the Navionics connector, he can buy the adapter. The SKU: 000-13313-001 is the wrong adapter. Its to connect a 7 pin blue connector to the 9 pin connector. The correct adapter is SKU: 000-12571-001. This adapter converts a 9 pin to a 7 pin. This is the easier method if you are not good at splicing your own connector to the cable.

If you get the transducer without a connector, it is much easier to run the wires without the connector. You can splice in a standard blue connector at the end. There are lots of sources for the connectors and you can even use an old transducer and just cut the connector off with a 1-2 foot wire.

As for interference from the 3-to-1, you can always selectively turn off a transducer on the menu screen. When you are in the sonar mode, you can select which transducer to output the signal.
 
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I have a HDS live 7 and just plugged in my 3 in 1 and an airmar TM185HW and have no issues running both at the same time. You should be fine.
 
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david what boat do you own? I contemplated a 185 as well. is it 10#as advertised?
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Thanks guys. I just ordered the SS175HW with 20 degree tilt and Navico/Xsonic connector.
 
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Thanks guys. I just ordered the SS175HW with 20 degree tilt and Navico/Xsonic connector.

Don't forget your adapter or you will need to remove your 3-in-1 transducer to plug it into the 9 pin connector. The SS175HW comes with the 9 pin and you need the 9 pin to 7 pin adapter. The part number is SKU: 000-12571-001.
 
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Don't forget your adapter or you will need to remove your 3-in-1 transducer to plug it into the 9 pin connector. The SS175HW comes with the 9 pin and you need the 9 pin to 7 pin adapter. The part number is SKU: 000-12571-001.
I don't doubt what you are saying because I don't have an HDS 12 Live to look at but I do have 3 HDS 7 Live and the Blue and Black connectors are identical. Any transducer that fits in one, will fit the other. I currently run an Airmar TM150 with the black 9 pin connector and it will fit in both the black and blue connector on the back of my units and the transducer is recognized and automatically selected in the install menu no matter where itis plugged in.. Seems strange that it would be different on the 12 vs the 7 of the same family.
 
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Don't forget your adapter or you will need to remove your 3-in-1 transducer to plug it into the 9 pin connector. The SS175HW comes with the 9 pin and you need the 9 pin to 7 pin adapter. The part number is SKU: 000-12571-001.
My blue port 6 is 9-pin and the 3-in-1 physically connects to it-though it won’t work on it.
You say it won’t work. Abbor at The Hull Truth says it will. We’ll see who or right.

Thanks everyone for your input.
 
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My blue port 6 is 9-pin and the 3-in-1 physically connects to it-though it won’t work on it.
You say it won’t work. Abbor at The Hull Truth says it will. We’ll see who or right.

Thanks everyone for your input.

If its a 9 pin, you are good. Most of the blue ports are 7 pin ports. Lowrance really need to stop doing that because generally the blue is the 7 pin connector and the 9 pin are black. I just zoomed into the picture and it looks like a 9 pin connector. It just creates confusion when they color code the 7 pin as blue and also the 9 pin.

Arbor knows his shit. I don't have the HDS Live. I have the HDS12 Gen3 and the blue connector is 7 pins. I have no idea why Lowrance kept the color blue even though its a 9 pin connector now. That is just plain stupid.
 
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OK, so to bookend this, the beast (SS175HW) arrived today. I plugged it into port 6, turned the unit on, went to Setup, Sonar, Installation, and the ducer was recognized 👍🏻.

I renamed the source SS175HW and renamed the other source 3 in 1. Now on the sonar screen, my source choices are the name of the ducer rather than Ch1 and CH2.

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Nice! I have the same setup but with a simrad evo3. Dont forget to pause the transducer when loading the boat to prevent burning it out when using the fish finder on the trailer. Could be an expensive error. Might not be an issue with the 3 in 1 but the 1 kw 175hw is a different animal.
 
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