3.5 day trip on Sea Adventure 80 out of San Diego

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Would you care to share the rest of your story about the trip?
Capt Mike made it clear that casting hardware could only be done from the bow, he forgot to mention that didnt include the crew who were launching lures from everywhere. The cussing that came from the bridge, funny at the time, when another boat was semi-close to us was a disgrace to the position he held and the integrity they should display as a Capt. The solid bookings obviously negated the need for him to have any concern for his reputation...shocking. Its wasnt all bad. I did land one small blue fin. I had another on for a while. I got it close, it went under the boat and struggled to keep it clear of rudder and prop. There was a deckhand standing next to me, his first time on the boat, he didnt even know how to tie a knot. I eventually got cut off. At that time another deckhand, Gavin, arrived and scolded the DH standing next to me for not grabbing the push stick to keep my line clear. He point over to the pole to explain to him what is for because he had no idea.
 
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If anyone who was working in the San Diego sportfishing community from the 90's to the present time, didn't have a clue of the reputation of the McDaniels family, (except the mother,Lisa), you would know it was damn near impossible to find any boat owner or boat operator, landing office staff members,etc that had any positive about that family.
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Lol that cussing was me fuck those skiffs
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Pretty much every boat has a “no jig” policy on the stern for customers as they don’t know your skill level. And if your sensibilities were offended because Mike cussed out a boat in the chum line, then here’s a list of boats you may wanna avoid- the Captain’s might be too salty for you.

Any Taft Brother’s owned boats, El Capitan, Tomahawk, Constitution, Poseidon, Producer, Aztec… My fingers are getting cramped. I’m sure there’s plenty of others…
 
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Okay, so I texted the captain about this and he called me back and told me what went on. Apparently the OP is part of a group of 8 or so. That group previously this summer went on another boat, complained about the service, and got 8 free tickets. Now the group is trying to the same thing again with the SEA 80, posting complaint threads on multiple social media (6 that I have counted) to try and leverage the captain into relenting. Some of the "other complaints" in this thread are from newbies that in all likelihood are part of the same group of 8 people trying to get free rides on boats. This is the same process that was used on other boards too. Apparently it is their MO. Also, this group did catch a bunch of YT too, some with limits. I sure hope this group isn't allowed to this to another boat.
 
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You are an absolute moron!! Our first time on a charter in several years and there was three of us. You must work for the owner. Nice try......
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Lol no refunds were given
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Capt Mike made it clear that casting hardware could only be done from the bow, he forgot to mention that didnt include the crew who were launching lures from everywhere. The cussing that came from the bridge, funny at the time, when another boat was semi-close to us was a disgrace to the position he held and the integrity they should display as a Capt. The solid bookings obviously negated the need for him to have any concern for his reputation...shocking. Its wasnt all bad. I did land one small blue fin. I had another on for a while. I got it close, it went under the boat and struggled to keep it clear of rudder and prop. There was a deckhand standing next to me, his first time on the boat, he didnt even know how to tie a knot. I eventually got cut off. At that time another deckhand, Gavin, arrived and scolded the DH standing next to me for not grabbing the push stick to keep my line clear. He point over to the pole to explain to him what is for because he had no idea.

I will keep this brief. I was on that boat and concur with Striper MF and I guarantee 90% of the clients on the boat would also agree. This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of fishing. Fishing is fishing sometimes is on fire sometimes it's not. The Captains did do a good job of finding fish, but thats were it ends. We battled the entire crew for fishing spots when we had a short bite or paddy hopped. I probably would not have been too upset with that if they did not keep the fish for themselves and send customers home empty handed. Regardless we should not have had to battle the crew for fishing spots. Other things like, not allowing any casting from the stern of the boat but half the crew was casting iron from there, or being pushed out of the way at the bow, or the Captain cussing at boats that got to close with kids and women aboard. I could go on, but enough said....The SA80 had a great reputation when the owner Scott was running it, his son Mike is now running it and I'm sure Scott will not tolerate this for long.
I honestly can't believe the gall of this group. They are trying to leverage these complaints into getting their money back, even though some of them caught limits. This is their MO. We have all been duped by these guys.
 
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Okay, so I texted the captain about this and he called me back and told me what went on. Apparently the OP is part of a group of 8 or so. That group previously this summer went on another boat, complained about the service, and got 8 free tickets. Now the group is trying to the same thing again with the SEA 80, posting complaint threads on multiple social media (6 that I have counted) to try and leverage the captain into relenting. Some of the "other complaints" in this thread are from newbies that in all likelihood are part of the same group of 8 people trying to get free rides on boats. This is the same process that was used on other boards too. Apparently it is their MO. Also, this group did catch a bunch of YT too, some with limits. I sure hope this group isn't allowed to this to another boat.
Everyone.. this poor guys effort to right the wrongs of others is complete crap. I was solo and have no desire for a free anything. There standard that all us ethical outdoorsmen and women follow. This gentlemen obviously does not fit in that catagory.
 
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Here is a PM from a 6 pack captain in the Bay Area...
I was on this trip with you with my wife, son, and father. We also complained to the captain and the landing. Absolutely horrible. It was nice of you to not also mention all the vulgar shit the captain said over the loudspeaker to the other boats and also at the meeting. At one point the deckhands were sitting in the galley looking at porn on their phones at the next table over from my family. This has to be the most unprofessional charter boat crew on the west coast, and if you look through their fish scores they are probably the worst boat at H&M.
I bet this family is part of the same group that is trying to leverage messages in these forum to get their money back, even though some caught limits. Just so you know this is all part of a plan, here is what StriperMF messaged me today:

Im posting this violation of our industry all over and wont stop

Clearly, this is not a heartfelt or legitimate complaint.
 
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A little bit of research could probably tell you who is looking for refunds and who isn’t. People that write comments in PM’s generally are not looking for public attention to leverage anything. However people that come on here and publicly blast businesses could likely be doing that. That person was sharing their experience with striperMF privately and he chose to use it as part of his campaign against the SA80.
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I have fished with Mike (and 2 of his supporters on this thread) PLENTY. I would personally feel very comfortable vouching for him just out of his character alone. The OP is COMPLETELY full of shit IMO. If it is indeed true you are trying to extort, let me assure you, you never want to meet me.
 

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Everyone.. this poor guys effort to right the wrongs of others is complete crap. I was solo and have no desire for a free anything. There standard that all us ethical outdoorsmen and women follow. This gentlemen obviously does not fit in that catagory.
In your first post you said friends persuaded you to get on that trip.Now you say you were solo ? which is it ?
 
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So, the OP says he was solo. But, now my old Police Officer instincts are going “hmmmm” because he made references to elk hunting and guiding. Interestingly, on another site where posts were made, 2 other people on the trip supporting the version of events are serious, out-of area elk hunters/guides. Maybe it’s a coincidence….. 😂
 
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    Nothing wrong with my comprehension, maybe you should follow your own advise.
    afraser started his post with " This has to be exaggerated. I did 3 multi-day trips on the Sea Adventure 80 this year and didn't see the actions mentioned by this poster on any of them."
    If that is not calling the man a liar, what is?
    Again, reading comprehension. Calling someone a "Liar" is calling them a "Liar". Saying that he believes the story is exaggerated is not calling the poster a "Liar".
     
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    Nothing wrong with my comprehension, maybe you should follow your own advise.
    afraser started his post with " This has to be exaggerated. I did 3 multi-day trips on the Sea Adventure 80 this year and didn't see the actions mentioned by this poster on any of them."
    If that is not calling the man a liar, what is?
    Calling him a liar would be calling him a liar.Were you on that trip ?
     
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    I was the second this guy is full of shit
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    I bet this family is part of the same group that is trying to leverage messages in these forum to get their money back, even though some caught limits. Just so you know this is all part of a plan, here is what StriperMF messaged me today:

    Im posting this violation of our industry all over and wont stop

    Clearly, this is not a heartfelt or legitimate complaint.
    Sounds more like a Vendetta than a complaint
     
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    woodfish330

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    So I don't know what to think.... but have never favored (lying...about bad service) for financial gain.... ie free passage / fishing. As a skipper and previous crew member.... destroying a hard earned reputation for the boat.... takes years to rebuild. One thing if its true..... you reap what you sew. If its not.... I'd be pissed for sure.

    So... which ever it is.... wash my hands here and now.
     
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    Something doesn’t sound right.
    This doesn’t pass the sniff test also.

    Has anyone in their entire life of fishing on a boat out of San Diego seen all working hands on deck fishing, including both Captains at the same time they should be throwing bait and assisting paying fishermen?

    Let alone the statement that 6 to 8 extra fishermen make the whole boat unfishable?

    I‘m not saying impossible but way out there.
    I guess if both Captains had ZERO confidence in the fisherman on the boat, they may have stepped in to put some fish on the boat. But at what cost? I’m sure the captains have come back skunked before.
    I was on a 2 day trip a month ago and saw all the deck hands and the captain fishing, but it was all nighttime flat falls. Also half the customers slept through the hot bite They handed off some hookups and they also killed some themselves. All the fish but one was given to the people that did not catch anything.
     
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    I was on a 2 day trip a month ago and saw all the deck hands and the captain fishing, but it was all nighttime flat falls. Also half the customers slept through the hot bite They handed off some hookups and they also killed some themselves. All the fish but one was given to the people that did not catch anything.
    I have no problem with deckhands fishing at night if no one else is. I was a 2.5 day and by the second day hardly anyone was fishing at night. They ran out of steam.
     
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    StriperMF

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    So I don't know what to think.... but have never favored (lying...about bad service) for financial gain.... ie free passage / fishing. As a skipper and previous crew member.... destroying a hard earned reputation for the boat.... takes years to rebuild. One thing if its true..... you reap what you sew. If its not.... I'd be pissed for sure.

    So... which ever it is.... wash my hands here and now.
    Unfortunately for your boys a reputation is built on your performance. As you can clearly read (giving you the benefit of the doubt) their performance deserves notice to all those respectable, hardworking, ethical people who spend their hard earned money to have an enjoyable time. Thanks to BD for this awesome platform!
     
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    Had some cluster F%#$ trips on the SA80 in the past. Boat has a good larger layout for a short range boat . Some of the stories would blow your mind -reality show type stuff.

    After my last trip a few years back.. I wrote a nice email to Capt Scott about my findings and the greater potential of the vessel (like howabout spend 20 bux and upgrade the heads)
    I did not get back the answers that I was hoping for.
    X2…🤣
     
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    I have never been on this boat, but have friends who have and seen countless videos of anglers trips and have never seen anything that looked, suspect. The captain does seem like a colorful guy but you get that a lot in this industry.
     
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    afraser

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    Unfortunately for your boys a reputation is built on your performance. As you can clearly read (giving you the benefit of the doubt) their performance deserves notice to all those respectable, hardworking, ethical people who spend their hard earned money to have an enjoyable time. Thanks to BD for this awesome platform!
    StriperMF clearly said on another platform that he was with friends on the boat, and said he was solo here. Can't keep his stories straight.
     
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    I have my own boat in the bay area. Although the bluefin opportunity and friends swayed me to jump onboard
    StriperMF clearly said on another platform that he was with friends on the boat, and said he was solo here. Can't keep his stories straight.
    Mentioned that friends swayed him.
     
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