3.5 Day Top Gun 80 8/24 to 8/28

Discussion in 'Southern California Offshore Fishing Reports' started by Mr. lucky, Aug 28, 2018.

  1. Mr. lucky

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    Had a great trip on the Top Gun 80 with Bob driving and Scott as the second. Dixie was in the kitchen and did a wonderful job. Steven was the deckhand and while he was very green, what he lacked in knowledge he more than made up for in attitude and work ethic. I have nothing but positive things to say about the whole operation and had a great time. I sent 10 yellowfin (biggest went 20 lbs on the scale at the dock) to the processor and gave away 20+ more while on the boat to guys who couldn’t get past the skippys. Now the details:

    Day 1- Limit style fishing for yellowfin and skippys with the rest of the fleet. A few dorado and yellowtail thrown in as well. 20-30 lb test and #2 hook did the trick. Butt-hooked dines generated more yellowfin for me.

    Day 2- Stayed in the same zone for the morning and had a few good stops. Left around 10 to start making our way to San Clemente to fish the big boys on the third day. Stopped on several kelps or open water schools and got more dorado (biggest went 24 lbs on the dock scale), yellowtail and more skippies and yellowfin. Arrived at the island around 9:00 pm and started trying to make mackerel for bait as I guess the day before they were eating them well. Not much happening on the mackerel front so we went and caught a bunch of flying fish. Catching flying fish was one of the most fun things I have done in a while. We were scooping like crazy and a few were even caught mid air which was cool. A handful of us stayed up all night trying to catch mackerel for the boat which in hindsight was stupid as the fish never sniffed a mackerel but in my case I wanted to give myself every chance possible to catch a trophy.

    Day 3 – Trophy Hunting. This day was spent looking for the big ones. We were flying the kite/balloon all over the island with fresh flying fish all day. We saw a ton of fish but the boat only ended up with one which weighed in at 198lbs bled at the dock this morning. The guy did a great job and kicked the fishes ass in about 30 min. It was very impressive.My buddy hooked another but as he was making his way up the rail back to the bow about 25 minutes in, someone decided that keeping their bait out was more important and his line got wrapped and the hook pulled. A real bummer but that is fishing. We had a bunch of blow-ups on the flyers but they didn’t stick. Typical "should have been here yesterday" type of days but we gave ourselves a chance and that is all you can do sometimes. I was just happy to have seen such beautiful fish come over the rail. Unfortunately, now all I can think about is getting back out there and getting one myself.

    Overall it was one hell of a trip and I will definitely be fishing the Top Gun 80 again. I had heard the stories about how salty Bob could be and was worried, but I absolutely loved his comments and attitude. I think if you take things too serious you would have a hard time but if you can see it for what it is, that they are trying to help you catch fish, it makes it comical.

    One thing that I found funny was that everyone on the boat was so gung-ho to go fish the big ones on the last day but when it came down to it certain people were complaining about how we weren’t catching fish, why wasn’t the captain stopping on that kelp, we should have stayed down south, blah blah blah. A lot of them were the same ones that went to bed at 9:00pm on Day 2 while the rest of us stayed up trying to catch mackerel and flying fish and dropping flatfalls on schools when we would mark them until 5:00 in the morning They were also the ones standing at the bait tank expecting a mackerel to be presented to them. Rant over.

    I will leave you with some of my favorite Bob Taft quotes from the trip (all have to be read in Bob’s gruff tone of voice):

    “Some of you guys think you are fishing, but you’re not”- In reference to those whose baits were just swimming next to the boat

    “You just sawed off your buddy, I’m sure he really appreciates that”- when my uncle sawed off one of my yellowfin.

    “Swing and a miss”, Padres All-Star team” – when I swung and missed on a yellowfin/skippy

    “ I’m sure that bait is going to fish a lot better once it’s dried out” – Bob to a guy watching my friend pull on his Bluefin with a couple of fresh squid dangling on his hook.

    “Looks like your dick once you’re finished” –referring to my uncles flying fish after it got blown up on but didn’t stick.

    “You’d have better luck trolling that trash can over there” – to a guy trolling a yummy flyer when his turn came up in the rotation while we were fishing for yellowfin down south.

    "If you're one of those idiots that stayed up all night trying to catch mackerel you might want to go take a nap for a couple of hours" -Bob over the speaker when telling us the bluefin have been coming up later in the day and that it would probably be pretty slow for awhile. I also think it was his way of saying thank you because he was right there with us all night telling us how deep he was marking them.
     
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  2. mhanson59hb

    mhanson59hb Fear No Fish

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    Great report. Congrats on the fish.

    I have a 2.5 on the TG80 coming up Oct 1st. Heard nothing but good things about the boat and Captain. Although to be fair I really do enjoy grumpy/funny captains, even if it is directed at me sometimes!
     
  3. larry dickson

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    Keeping it funny with a little light sarcasm makes the trip a lot more fun for me, no doubt my presence will give him some fodder to work with. Your Report Reminded me of fishing on the producer with Capt. Ray Sobieck many years ago, had me feel like falling down and rolling on the deck with laugher, especially when he was yelling at private boats poaching his space and chumline! Brings back great memories!
     
  4. BASSMITH

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    Thanks for the great report, sounds like you gave it your all and had fun.
    That's one of my favorite boats
     
  5. Steve Francis

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    Once was invited by Bob and went on a crew only trip on Chuck's boat. The target was late season Gorillas just south of the Coronados. Bob said he had to warn me though, that I'd be the only "non Taft" on the boat. Trip included Spike, Bob, Chuck, kids, grandkids and me. Had a great time. Caught a few nice fish. Largest was a 212lb Big Eye.
     
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  6. redsnapper517

    redsnapper517 Well-Known "Member"

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    Great Report . Gotta love Bob & Scotty
     
  7. dannykl1957

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    Thanks for a terrific report. Smart game plan by the skipper to head south and get everyone bent and satiated on lots of smaller game before heading to Clemente where only the lucky few would be rewarded.

    Loved the good natured sarcasm of Bob Taft.
     
  8. AndyJ

    AndyJ Well-Known "Member"

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    Great report and attitude. Sometimes you have to take and accept constructive advice. It's even better and more entertaining when served up by a classic with some mustard and sarcasm. Love it.
     
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  9. Grandpa

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    Boy, that brought back memories.
    In the 80’s, we were in a ripper yellowtail bite at the rock pile and the fish were charging the boat in waves.
    “If you don’t have a god damn bait in the water,
    go lay down in your fucking bunk.”
    Classic...
     
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  10. wils

    wils lazy-ass well known "member"

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    I, too, had a blast fishing with those guys a few years back. Like you said, its all in the attitude.
     
  11. el Toro

    el Toro I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Great report, and while I worked for many years on sportboats with my share of gruff captains (all of them) and can sympathize with them somewhat, I still find those kinds of comments unacceptable when directed towards paying customers. Why is this the only industry where being an asshole gets a pass? Fishing is supposed to be a vacation and it's expensive, we deserve better IMO. I don't want to go on a vacation, only to berated, especially when I'm the one putting food on the asshole's table.

    Sure, sometimes, I want to tell my client's off too, but I keep my pie hole shut and smile. They pay my bills and I'd always like more of them.
     
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  12. T.O.T.W.

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    ALL of them???LOL
     
  13. el Toro

    el Toro I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Ok, with one exception. Kinda.
     
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    :-):-):-)
    Well, I think it's because most fisherman aren't triggered pussies...
     
  15. IronMikeAC

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    Bob Taft quotes. So funny. Tshirt material
     
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    Tunaslam I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Haven't fished the boat, how was the bait supply for a three day trip? Glad you put the wood to them the first couple of days!
     
  17. SCHeadhunter

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    Thanks for the great report and for not posting pictures of piles of Skippy's.
    I'm glad you guys got a shot and those biggies.
     
  18. Mr. lucky

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    Bait capacity was good. Smaller than some and bigger than others. Never felt like we were short and the wells were always full and chum always being thrown when called for. On deck they have standard two tank system. They also have a couple hundred gallon below deck slammer that I saw Scotty replenishing the above deck bait tanks out of in the evening. The boat does 5.5 day trips so I think bait capacity is fine for a 3.5.

    On the topic of bait, we spent well over an hour (and probably closer to two) at the bait barge while Bob inspected several pens of bait and dipped hardly full nets to preserve the bait. A few times he would open up a pen and crowd it and not like what he saw and try a different pen. Several 1.5 day and multi-day boats arrived after us and left before us while we were getting bait. I was impressed with his thoroughness,
     
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    Great report. Bob Sounds like Bruce on the Sport King!
     
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    Was also on the top gun trip mr lucky! First time on the boat liked the crew . Loved the “coaching” from Scott and bob both had some great one liners. Classic skipper talk!!

    Was the lucky one to get a bft on the kite, Scotty did a great job talking me through to gaff. Great setups for the kite fishing unlimited rods Avet 50 wides(200 # spectra with 150 # topshot.
    Lots of us had 80# setups (2spd lever drag 4/0--6/0 reels with 80-100 braid). If we got into some bait fish in the 200-300 lb class our success rates would have been very low (1-5%) in landing any of the bigger grade fish with the 80-100# setups.

    Besides my kite fish, the flying fish round up at Clemente was a hoot! Kudos to Kurt for the outta the water netting skills!

    Thanks to the crew, bob and Scotty for the great trip
    Will be on the boat again!
    Ace
     
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