200lb hollow vs 130lb for BFT on a Mak30

Surfersteve79

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Would like feedback whether I should spool my Mak30 with 200lb of JB Hollow core or just got with 130lb? With 200lb I can max out the drag on the reel but with nearly 60lbs of drag that is ridiculous and probably not even feesible on a sporty with no rod holders but gives me more strength, but also could raise my risk significantly of pulling a hook. Pro's are that I have more peace of mind with that heavy line if I 300lb+ super cow decides to bite at the end of my line.

The 130lb will fill my reel more, but empty my wallet and also bump my drag down at full to more humanly attainable 35lbs of drag or so which is still to be honest brutual. This outfit will be just for flat falling so would you say just going with more line capacity is the way to go if a night bite gets going and I get bit after I already dumped 125-150 yds of line at the point of battle?
 
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I've caught several fish north of #200 on 130#, never felt that I needed that much drag. At 60# of drag I think you would have an outstanding chance you pull the hook. Mine were all on a private boat, I pulled two hooks last year, both when we tried to "button it down" to finish the fight. your mileage may vary.
 
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I would go with 130#. 2 weeks ago I was fishing 100# on a Mak 20, finished the fight on 3 nice BFT (120, 125 & 185#) with 40# of drag using a 7'6" UC Viper. No reason why you couldn't use 45-50# of drag with 130# mainline at Full if you felt the need.
 
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Agreed on the 130 spectra to 130 mono. How much 130 spectra can the Mak30 hold, 800 yds? Plus, with stretch of mono and drag on the reel, hardest the spectra will get pulled is prob 40lb.
 
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    Definitely go with 130# for what your intended use is. Also, if it so happens that you use this reel for a balloon/kite set up, you want the extra line.
     
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    Tedward2020

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    So I’m in the same situation but here what I have on mine mak30 850yards of toro tamer 8 strand 100# with room for top shot.... spooled by charkbait
     
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    I think that 100# will be fine. You can pull pretty hard on that weight line.
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    hucklongfin

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    I caught YFT of 298 and 321 on a Mak 20 with 100# Threadlock with a 25' 130# Premier leader. You don't need 200# mainline for BFT! I got a 270# YFT in 20 minutes on 130# with 45# of drag at strike. My best BFT so far is 226 but it was on the kite.
     
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    Barkoff

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    Can somebody give me a quick explanation what the difference is with hollow core braid, and what you can do with it that you can't do with regular braid?

    Thank you beforehand.
     
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    tclongbeach

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    Neither 130 or 200 spectra will break under extreme pressure if properly maintained and connected.

    Ive heard 130 spectra break and sounds like a gunshot (knot/wrap).

    Hollow means you can splice (insert) mono or fluoro in it and make a served connection.

    All fish are different. They're like girlfriends....some come right to you and some fight you the entire time. I like to be ready for the one tht fights.

    Me likey 130/130 on my Maks. YMMV
     
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    effigy

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    Which one? Too many....
    Can somebody give me a quick explanation what the difference is with hollow core braid, and what you can do with it that you can't do with regular braid?

    Thank you beforehand.
    With hollow you can splice different tests (or colors) together, completely seamlessly and with 100% strength. The different tests, near the top of the spool, is called a "step splice". For example, most of the spool filled with 100 lb, then 50 feet of 130, then 20 feet of 200. The heavier portion at the end is an "insurance policy" since that gets more wear & tear. Also, when using loop-to-loop leaders, it's more robust and easier to un-do with the heavier line at the loop / cat's paw.
     
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    Carl

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    most of the spool filled with 100 lb, then 50 feet of 130, then 20 feet of 200.

    Why the 130 "step"?
    You like more stretch than the 20' or what?

    If you have the 130 why 20' of 200?
    6' would seem long enough to me.

    Any more than that would kill the action of any lures or baits under a few pounds.

    Kite rig ok
     
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    DennisV

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    Your jig will scope out and create a bigger belly in the line with 200 hollow.

    Not what you want.
     
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    Tuna-Sniper

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    step up for braid is a way to get more lines on smaller reel and the last 100 yards(step up) is for the end game so you could pull harder.

    my 30 VISX is spooled with 100# then step up to 130# the last 100 yards, 50 VISX has straight up 150#
     
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    afraser

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    That last 100 yds is for abrasion resistance, either stepped from 100 to 130 or 130 to 200. With less line out, the death spirals get the line closer to the hull of the boat and will touch it if you aren't careful. Same issue for tangles. Also same issue with other tuna, especially right after the bite. You can be confident your line will not give out, that and you can use heavy drag at the end game, or to be able to hold the spool for extra drag as the swell lifts the boat, very useful. If you put 200# on it and use 13/0 hooks, you can put 50-60# of drag on the fish and bring him in in 10 minutes, probably.
     
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    Which one? Too many....
    Why the 130 "step"?
    You like more stretch than the 20' or what?

    If you have the 130 why 20' of 200?
    6' would seem long enough to me.

    Any more than that would kill the action of any lures or baits under a few pounds.

    Kite rig ok
    Carl, we are talking about spectra, not mono. The original question from Barkoff was about hollow core. So was my answer :-)
     
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    effigy

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    Which one? Too many....
    Your jig will scope out and create a bigger belly in the line with 200 hollow.

    Not what you want.
    Read my example. 50 - 70 feet of slightly higher diameter spectra, out of 300 - 500 feet of line out, is insignificant in terms of extra resistance, in my experience. I am literally putting 15 - 20 feet of 200 at the end, just for the loop. That 200 is still thinner than 20 feet of 130 mono or fluoro.
     
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    fishboy93

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    I’d fill that reel with 100lb solid and serve that into 100’ of 130lb hollow. You’re never going to fish more than 30-35lbs of drag on a sportboat. And that 130 is just for abrasion. If you really wanted to you could have a 50’ serve of 200 hollow on top of the 130. But this will give you ample line capacity and some more abrasion resistance/pulling power when the fish is close to the boat. Big boats roll more and farther so absurdly tight drags aren’t a good game plan unless you like pulling hooks. Add a loop on the end and fish 200lb mono wind ons for some stretch.
     
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    Barkoff

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    How can it be seamless? How hard a process is this, something the shop must do for you?

    Guess I’ll try youtube, I’m still not sure of the actual splice.
    Thank you for the replies.
     
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