1986 Cabo 216 Cuddycon - rebuild

Torrn

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I've been a fan of the Cabo 216 since I first saw one. I fish the Ca coast out of Santa Barbara primarily. I used to own a Radon 16' center console, named "Paloma". I did everything possible on the Radon for 5 years and then had to sell.
I bought this Cabo in February and have been slowly working on it. I stripped it completely of all wiring it had acquired over the years and then sealed the notched transom.
For the past days it's been in the SB Harbor boat works getting a T Top, Windlass, Bow trolling motor, rails, rocket launchers, auto pilot and electronics, new batteries moved under seat, etc... put together and installed. It comes back to Lundys Landing for motor bracket and install of Tohatsu (Honda) 250 plus trim tabs. Id love to do this myself but lack the skill and time. I know there are pros and cons of what I'm doing. Any positive feedback, constructive criticism, is appreciated. I'll stop talking and post some pics.

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SeaHawk IV

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What is your game plan for the deck and livewell drains? Are you replacing the entire rub rail or just the insert? If just the rubber insert, which brand and model are you using?

Since your're adding a motor bracket, will the trailer bunks get extended past the bottom of the transom?

Out of curiosity, what attracted you to a Cabo 216 instead of sizing up to a Radon?

Please keep posting more picks of this build.
 

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Filling in the transom is the best thing for these boats, I did it to my sons Cabo 216

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Torrn

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I know the drains have to be addressed. The discussion is ongoing with me and the guys who work at the boatyard. I almost sunk my radon when I got fishing line in the bilgepump. I brought it to Anderson boats after that and Ed Anderson put in ping pong ball scuppers and tubing up to mid deck. After fix I almost never heard bilge pump again. Dry boat. I'll figure out a fix, maybe the same as others have done, or unique, but it will be dealt with.

Didn't plan on replacing rub rail at first, just pulled it off for transom fix. Now I'm considering it. Suggestions?

Brand new trailer from Pacific trailers. We talked about bracket and outboard, they said axle was in right place and no need for extensions since bracket didn't touch bunks.

Reason for Cabo. No good reason. I had a few drinks, was talking to my buddy about how much I missed the close inshore fishing I did on my Radon, and that I'd love that set up with a small cuddy. I even mentioned the Cabo design. While talking I opened Craigslist and this one had just posted. I hung up on my friend, called the guy selling the boat and told him I'd be down in the morning to pick her up. Next morning was kinda like waking up on your honeymoon and thinking...wtf did I get myself into? It's all about commitment after that.

I'll continue with pics. Old and new
 
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SeaHawk IV

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PM Jim at Split Decision here on BD

He has a wealth of knowledge with these Cabo 216.

Jim replaced the rub rail on his 216 many years ago and it looked better than OEM in my opinion.
 
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Torrn

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PM Jim at Split Decision here on BD

He has a wealth of knowledge with these Cabo 216.

Jim replaced the rub rail on his 216 many years ago and it looked better than OEM in my opinion.
Awesome! Thanks. I'll try to contact him
 
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A couple more pics of the build. One pic has a product pic of "Lil' Caulk!", that's a product and company I created. It's really high quality so we're using it on the boat for R&D. Funny story but won't get into that here. I'll post more pics Tuesday when I'm back at the boatyard.

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Torrn

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Stoked on the ladder Dan Shannon built. Anybody recognize the roof? It's the cover for a truck bed. LEER to be specific and I bought it on craigslist for $300. Basically, saved about $1,500-2,200 on a custom fiberglass top. Recommended by Dan Shannon, the guy doing all the metal work. Quality person. He's old school and still really appreciates your business. Unlike some others.
 
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Congrats on you purchase, it's looking good keep the pictures and updates coming. I'd be concerned about the weight of the 250 you're planning on re powering with, do you know the weight of it?
 

Torrn

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Congrats on you purchase, it's looking good keep the pictures and updates coming. I'd be concerned about the weight of the 250 you're planning on re powering with, do you know the weight of it?
Thanks! I'll keep the pics coming. Agreed, the weight is a concern. I was hoping to put a Honda 200-225 on the back with a bracket. I found out the weight is the same for 200-250. The hull had a 250 hp max, so I figured on this channel more hp the better. The weight is 620lb. I am putting a bracket with flotation on the back, I moved the batteries up to mid deck and added 1 (3 total), installed the T Top, and put a windlass and heavy 36V trolling motor on the bow. I plan on packing heavy with full ice in the 8' holds and staying out for a day or 2-3. So, I'm guessing if she doesn't sink she'll be weighed out properly
 

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Thanks! I'll keep the pics coming. Agreed, the weight is a concern. I was hoping to put a Honda 200-225 on the back with a bracket. I found out the weight is the same for 200-250. The hull had a 250 hp max, so I figured on this channel more hp the better. The weight is 620lb. I am putting a bracket with flotation on the back, I moved the batteries up to mid deck and added 1 (3 total), installed the T Top, and put a windlass and heavy 36V trolling motor on the bow. Iplan on packing heavy with full ice in the 8' holds and staying out for a day or 2-3. So, I'm guessing if she doesn't sink she'll be weighed out properly
A lot of recent repowers went with a 150 and seem to be having great results. I would opt for that over a 200-250
 

Torrn

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A lot of recent repowers went with a 150 and seem to be having great results. I would opt for that over a 200-250
People use thier boats in different ways for different things. If I thought a 150 was best for what I do, I'd buy it and save a ton of money. I don't. I think a 250 is best, that's why I'm putting a 250 on there.
 
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I highly recommend to invest in a custom made isinglass with gullwing sides that span from the front of the T-Top to the gunnel. I made the mistake by having just the isinglass on the sides and not having them spread open to the gunnel. With the wider side curtains, this will keep the passengers in the back bench dry. For our local water, the Cabo 216 can get pretty wet on the port side when the wind picks up.


Found this photo on the internet, not my boat but same concept.
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Torrn

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100% agree. The canvas guy, Bennett Garr, is really busy. He said he'd do the center console now, front eisenglass, side zipper doors and flared out to gunnel right away but I'd have to wait awhile for the bow splash guard and for him to seal the back. I want a complete pilot house of canvas and eisenglass and a bow splash guard. It can get really cold, foggy and snoty on that channel fast.
 

Torrn

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It has a Yamaha 150 4 stroke
I think about 95%+ of the people on BD would agree that a 150 HP is the best option for this boat. In general I agree, but I've put a a lot of extra weight on my boat and I like to pack heavy. Also, I like to fish inshore where swells and kelp play a big role, I need all the HP I can get to cut kelp and rip the boat around and into the swell when necessary. Different fishing types/styles require different HP is the simplest way I can say I agree with a 150 being the smartest and most reasonable HP for this boat, but I like etxra HP so that's why I'm going with a 250. I'm almost 50, I need mid-life crisis speeds.
 
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Halibut Howie

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I just repowered my 1987 Cabo216 with another F150.The stats I'm getting after only 10 hrs of use is 5500 rpm, 43 mph at over 3 mpg. I shut her down before WOT was reached. Too fast for this scaredy-cat.

It was $18k out the door with other improvements (704 controls and more). No payments or interest for 6 months plus an extended 5 year warranty. I was not interested in fast or hole-shot so the F150 meets my needs. The F200 (same motor wt as F150) has an improved hole-shot at mid range. Your boat appears much heavier than mine with the tower and all. I know nothing about a 250 hp motor and its performance on a Cabo.

I also recently installed a Minn Kota 36vdc Ulterra trolling motor with spot lock (batteries in cutty) I beleive like yours. Keeps you over a rockfish hole or a hole in the kelp. I like the way you installed your trolling motor. I'll keep that in mine while I finalized my installation. The Cabo's bow design makes it difficult to find a location to install it. I made a temporary install on my bow to see how it works before going to a permanent more costly solution by a professional. It was a little difficult installing it by myself on a moored boat. My Cabo is a little bow heavy now but can be leveled by the F150 motor's trim. I made my trolling motor removable (hockey puck) so I can remove it if I plan on going out in inclimate weather. The main purpose of this modification is to use my Cabo to fish the backwaters and bayous of the SE USA coming next year. The cutty will come in handy on multi-day fishing trips up the Mobile River. I'm also removing the built in 110 gal fuel tank (hole in it) and replacing it with under deck storage for an insulated fish hold, EG and rod and tackle storage in order to keep the cutty clear for sleeping. Also removing the center seating area and going flush deck.

Good luck with your rebuild. It must be most exhilarating watching her evolve into your type of boat for your fishing experiences. I would recommend replacing all the gauges with a single digital display monitor ($1000).

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Torrn

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I just repowered my 1987 Cabo216 with another F150.The stats I'm getting after only 10 hrs of use is 5500 rpm, 43 mph at over 3 mpg. I shut her down before WOT was reached. Too fast for this scaredy-cat.

It was $18k out the door with other improvements (704 controls and more). No payments or interest for 6 months plus an extended 5 year warranty. I was not interested in fast or hole-shot so the F150 meets my needs. The F200 (same motor wt as F150) has an improved hole-shot at mid range. Your boat appears much heavier than mine with the tower and all. I know nothing about a 250 hp motor and its performance on a Cabo.

I also recently installed a Minn Kota 36vdc Ulterra trolling motor with spot lock (batteries in cutty) I beleive like yours. Keeps you over a rockfish hole or a hole in the kelp. I like the way you installed your trolling motor. I'll keep that in mine while I finalized my installation. The Cabo's bow design makes it difficult to find a location to install it. I made a temporary install on my bow to see how it works before going to a permanent more costly solution by a professional. It was a little difficult installing it by myself on a moored boat. My Cabo is a little bow heavy now but can be leveled by the F150 motor's trim. I made my trolling motor removable (hockey puck) so I can remove it if I plan on going out in inclimate weather. The main purpose of this modification is to use my Cabo to fish the backwaters and bayous of the SE USA coming next year. The cutty will come in handy on multi-day fishing trips up the Mobile River. I'm also removing the built in 110 gal fuel tank (hole in it) and replacing it with under deck storage for an insulated fish hold, EG and rod and tackle storage in order to keep the cutty clear for sleeping. Also removing the center seating area and going flush deck.

Good luck with your rebuild. It must be most exhilarating watching her evolve into your type of boat for your fishing experiences. I would recommend replacing all the gauges with a single digital display monitor ($1000).

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Those F150's are sweet. Ideally, I would've put a Yami on the back but I ran into some issues and it became a matter of time, money and convenience to go with the Tohatsu. With the mpg and speed you're getting it's obvious you have the right set up for your boat. I overpowered my Radon 16' with a Merc 150. After getting the weighting sorted out, extra fuel tank in bow fishold and with the help of trim tabs, it ended up being a great ride. I loved the power it had when the ocean got snoty. There were times when the hole-shot was necesary just getting between troughs of waves. When you've got a following sea, swell coming from the side and wind, it's important to be able to put your boat where it needs to be, fast. Bill Lundy is giving me a smoking price on the engine, I'll post what the end cost with installation when it's complete.
I don't have any experience on a Cabo 216, or a boat with a bracket or a 250 for that matter. So, I won't know if the boat rides better or not with this set up and I'm OK with that. I think the weighting and the hp will all work out fine.
Those trolling motors are sick! Yea, we bought the same one. I'm really looking forward to trying her out. Like you said, rock piles, holes in the kelp, inshore fishing...very cool. I'll give details on how the elctrician ended up hooking everything up, I know the 36 V was a bit of an issue and we needed a converter.
You mentioned removing your gas tank but not replacing it. Did you go with another 110? or something smaller to make room? Taking out the seating and clearing the deck? That's awesome! You'll have so much deck space. I used to be torn between deck space and creatre features, but now I'm an old fart and like my creature features. Sounds like you're going on a incrediable fishing trip! Looking forward to pics.

Thanks for all the info. and the gauge recommendation. Here's some pics I received today from the boatyard. Can' wait to get down there tomorrow and look everything over.

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Halibut Howie

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Wow what a great job you are doing on your original Cabo216. Just love how the upholstery looks after all these years.

Thanks for the pics on the professional installation of your trolling motor. Do you have a phone number and/or location of your installation site? I'm heading up to Burbank this Thursday to deliver my removed 30 gal Offshore bait tank and if it is on the way would like to drop by and talk to them about making some similar brackets for my Cabo. Looks like an almost perfect match for a bow install as well. That way I can install it by myself. I'm a little confused why you have a converter for the 36vdc system. I just wired mine to the output of the 3rd, 12vdc battery string thru a 60 amp fuse to the bow. I also wired it to use the 1st battery in the battery string as a 2nd 12vdc starting battery. #1 starting battery is in center seating area.

I've owned my Cabo216 for 18 years and have been modifying it ever since to my fishing needs and to improve on its sea worthiness..

No, I'm not replacing the below deck 110 gal fuel tank. Instead I'll use it for additional storage, insulated fish hole, batteries, engine generator and more. My cousin in Mobile Alabama said he would do the work at his boatyard. I'll also ask your boatyard the cost if they do the work. I plan on using my Cabo for multi-day fishing trips up the rivers and bayous of my favorite fishing areas in the SE USA. Ocean fishing will take a back seat on my fishing adventures.

Here's a pic of me draining my 110 gal fuel tank and replacing it with two 24 gal above deck fuel tanks. It was to be only a temp solution to my fuel problem but after sea trialing it with very positive results, it's going to be my final config but just needs to be cleaned up a bit and made pretty for the "girly boys" on this board.

I replaced my 30 gal above deck bait tank with a 10 gal Livewell placed between the two fuel tanks. I catch my own live bait so don't need a tank where most times throw away most of the unused bait.. The Cabo's two 20 gal bait tank in the pic have been abandoned and used as iced fish holds now that drain into the bilge.

If you would like to see how my current setup fishes and how it runs in the ocean and bays just give me a PM. I could pick you up at the Shelter Island boat launch in San Diego.

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Torrn

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Offering a ride on your boat is top shelf. Thank you. I'm up north in Santa Barbara so it'd be a trek. My boat "should" be ocean ready in 2 weeks. I'd travel down to buddy boat and go out after those tuna anytime! Of course you're also welcome on my boat in SD or if you're ever up here.

The guy who did all of the metal work made the t top, rails, bow roller, radar and bow trolling motor mount is Dan Shannon. I've never given my money to a better person. Class act. He's in the SB Harbor Boatworks yard. He's got a website I can't remember name "stainless specialists, Santa Barbara, Dan Shannon" should work in internet search. His number: 805-415-0623

I understand what your doing now. Your gonna have a lot of fuel, space, ice and a tank of a boat. Fish will be slayed. Awesome!

I showed the electrician what you did about the trolling motor. I'm no electrician but it sounded to me like he was concerned about making a 36V loop in the system that would fry the 12V stuff. Something to that effect. His remedy was to buy a converter for the trolling motor. His name is Justin and he works next door to Dan. I can give you his number if you'd like.

Side note. Are those live baitwells totally useless? I like what you're doing, I'm the same. Catch my own bait and don't like waste. That being said I'd hoped I could make those work. Should I abandon them and rework something?
 
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Halibut Howie

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My favorite town in all CA or perhaps the USA is Carpentaria. What a great little friendly beach town. Great walking beach and restaurants. Last year I worked at the airport and stayed there for a couple of months and would go out fishing on the Stardust often. We just had a mini 3 day vacation there last May with fishing and golf to use up some of my Best Western Hotel points.

I'll look into the comments about the 36vdc converter. He's the expert not some keyboard electrician like me.

To answer your question about the standard Cabo bait tanks is they were not a problem for me until I moored my boat. The bait tanks are partially below the waterline so would not fully drain. I did not want having 20 gal of water in my moored boat. Went to a lot of trouble to replace them. Would I do it again? No. However, today my old bait tanks make great fish holds. 10 lbs of ice in each and throw in the fish. Ice water drains into bilge.

The 30 gal above deck bait tank was much better at keeping the bait healthy especially during rough weather. Also much easier to get to. I just sold it so I could make room to install the two above deck fuel tanks. Now I'm gonna try out a livewell system like my cousin and all his fishing buddies do in the backwaters of LA..... (Lower Alabama). A 10 gal livewell will fit between the fuel tanks. It's portable so you can take it anywhere.

Buddy boat with me any time but I'm not good at tuna fishing but do try a few times a year when they are close. I use to catch many halibut around SD but seemed to have lost my touch in recent years. The trolling motor will come in handy to search for halibut in an area using a grid pattern system with its GPS routing function.
 
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