13ft Livingston Refit

nik olson

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You guys with your rad compact skiffs have inspired me to get off my ass and build one. I have a bigger boat but was interested in getting a little 12-15 ft skiff for crabbing in the Puget Sound and San Juan Islands. Up here in the NW, Livingston's are pretty common( and cheap), so I picked up a 13fter yesterday. I like the stability that a cat hull provides in such a small boat. Ill start by cleaning it, drying it out, removing all the crap on it, flipping it and getting to work on the outer hull.

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nik olson

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Not much fun stuff to report. I have just been sanding off all the old paint and most of the primer. I'm thinking of going with a narrow center console, center storage/fish compartment on the middle bow, stern- storage box on one side-fuel tank on the other with an engine well, battery in the steering console. Also want to add some floor boards so I'm not standing on a wet floor all the time maybe teak. If I had any skills with the photo editor I could draw it. But I don't. So I can't.

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rydawg

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Livingston boats are great platforms for a custom build... keep up the good work!
 

nik olson

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Actually been working hard on this thing but not much visual progress. Sanded all the bottom paint off and removed a lot of the previous gelcoat, paint, whatever old finishes were on it. Finally found a new pad for the 8 inch DA which made the job much quicker. There is quite a bit more damage to the keels than I anticipated so this is gonna take longer than I thought, but it's all good! Going to be glassing and repairing damage this week.

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mikedynp

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Nice work. I have a similar project that I am getting ready to start as soon as it warms up a bit. Are you planning on using gelcoat or paint on the hull?
 

nik olson

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I'm thinking gelcoat but I haven't made my mind up yet. I think it's a little more durable than paint- for beach launching, crabbing, and general banging around?
 
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stella marina

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Nice job bud!
Isn't sanding fun??
I learned long sleeves are a must, and a resperator, rather than a dust mask..
Can't wait to see it all done.
I just received my tuff epoxy primer, hopefully it makes my first fiberglass attempt look better.
What are you going to use on the bottom after glassing?
 

nik olson

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Oh yeah sanding fiberglass is the best lol. Yes sleeves, respirator, hat, all that. I don't know yet what I want to do for the bottom. I'm liking this project because it's like a blank canvas-can do pretty much anything I want as long as it's within 13ft... any suggestions? It will not be kept in the water for more than a few days at a time. Would prefer no bottom paint...
 
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stella marina

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I'm planning on making a larger casting platform in the front, like the other livingston on here, check out the seahawk tuff stuff for the bottom. It's suppose to be a water barrier, comes in white or grey., I'll let you know how it goes once the weather warms back up.
 

gunnyslinger

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I'm thinking gelcoat but I haven't made my mind up yet. I think it's a little more durable than paint- for beach launching, crabbing, and general banging around?
Take a look at VC Performance Epoxy. I just painted the bottom of my skiff with it. Easy stuff to work with.
 

nik olson

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Ok thanks for the replies. I will check them out.
 

mikedynp

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I'm thinking gelcoat but I haven't made my mind up yet. I think it's a little more durable than paint- for beach launching, crabbing, and general banging around?
That's the way I am leaning as well. Seems like people have pretty strong opinions on the matter in both sides. Have you done a project like this before?
 

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Ah another Livingston boat project! Looking good!
 

Aliikai17

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Just go home depot and pick up a sander outside. Way better and you don't get any fiberglass on you!! Thought about doing that on my next project to subcontract it out at home depot.
 

dmrides

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You should look into getting the stainless steel keel guards from Livingston as long as you’re doing all that bottom work.
 

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Have that exact boat. After much use the floor WILL WEAR OUT. Solve this issue by placing floorboards on the high spots on the edges on the floor. Use 3/4 ply with water proof glue and you will be happy. If you go with bare floors in time it will delaminate and it’s a time consuming rebuild. I filled mine with foam and cut a larger well in each side for the bilge pumps and float switches. Run a 25-30 hp 2 stroke as these are weight sensitive. Not sure about a light four stroke as the 28hp erude special I run on mine gets the job done very well. Also before you build in the front area fill the spots not used with foam. Would balance the battery’s and such up front to help with the initial plane. I use mine as a bay boat and placed the bait tank in between the two seats back of center in the starboard well worked out great. I have. The factory center console and just sit facing to port. You will love it when done. The hole in the hull is very common and it initially had the stainless runner on it clearly removed from yours. Use the bags of cement to figure out where to put stuff. Hate redoing things or what I call twice or three times construction! Best of luck to you.....
 

nik olson

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Hey thanks guys... A lot of useful input. Norm- I'm planning on doing glassed-in plywood floor boards, about 1-2 inches above the bottom. Someone at one time had added stainless runners on the skegs. I removed them and not planning on re -installing them. Also, like the idea of adding foam up front. We don't fish with live bait up here, so not stressing about where to put a bait tank.



What do you think about a 20hp 4 stroke- is that enough power?
 

dmrides

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Mine had a 20hp 4 stroke on it when I bought it. When it died I put a 25 4 stroke on it. Though it is heavier, it does much better fully loaded, especially with two people. I get an extra 4-6 knots without much change in mpg.
 
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I would suggest you look at the footprint of the motor you looking at. Most run a different carb and timing for 20-30 horsepower. Go with the most you can get for the year and series of engine your looking at. Just don’t go bonsai full throttle from the start the transom on the 13 I think is rated for 20. You can go larger and just use some common sense on how you operate the boat. Again the weight on a 13 needs to be carefully thought out. The gunnels are deep, however be careful on the weight.
 

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I find my 20hp Yamaha 4stroke tiller, lacking excitement. It gets the job done but that’s it, 22mph max, solo.
 
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