100lb and up Top Shot Connection. Roller guide only. What do you like? Why?

Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by Miss Fitz, May 4, 2015.

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100lb and up Top Shot Connection. Roller Guide only. What knot do you like? Why?

Poll closed May 7, 2015.
  1. Served Knot- No crimps/glued

    11 vote(s)
    34.4%
  2. Served Knot- Crimped and glued

    5 vote(s)
    15.6%
  3. Mini- Bimini Twist- for Wind on leaders

    4 vote(s)
    12.5%
  4. Elmer's Glue

    4 vote(s)
    12.5%
  5. Other

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. Miss Fitz

    Miss Fitz Call me Captain

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    I only really care about responses specifically for ROLLER GUIDE rods. Because that's what I own....

    So I'm getting hyped on my next big tuna search and will be bringing my standard 100lb ALL ROLLER outfits with me. These are matched with an Avet and Shimano 30w and 50w class that I intend on maxing out at 100lb top shots (either mono or fluro depending on my mood).

    With all roller set ups, I have not had the need to really refine my knotless serve techniques and have stuck with the good ol' mini-bimini for wind on leaders.

    SooOOoo...what's your ROLLER GUIDE outfit knot preference? Why?

    Inquiring minds want to know.....
     
  2. Fishybuzz

    Fishybuzz fishybuzz

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    Insert leader 3 feet into hollow spectra…..2- 4 turn nail knots with 100# solid spectra……apply Japanese glue to nail knots….I use 100# hollow spectra for 100# leader material.
     
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  3. Pangamaster

    Pangamaster Cow Town Here I come!

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    I thought you were using the Pena knot for 100# & 130#?
     
  4. Fishybuzz

    Fishybuzz fishybuzz

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    I am …….he asked what I would use for a knotless roller guide connection….
     
  5. JohnTFT

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    Old school with ROLLER GUIDES love it! - Bimini to an Albright and call it a day.
     
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  6. The Right Kind

    The Right Kind Slave

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    Clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk.
    Clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk, clunk-clunk.
     
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  7. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Pretty sure that's why Garry Sato put all that time into perfecting his crimp system. My choice.

    I'm using nail knots when I insert into hollow with 60 lb and lighter.
     
  8. JohnTFT

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    That right there is the best response I have ever read on BD. Flat out funny.

    I am lazy. I use BHP topshots and windons to a spliced end loop. Its fast, easy and super strong.

    Very smooth going through roller guides as well.
     
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  9. screamingreel

    screamingreel Long Range Fanatic

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    Hello Vince,

    Same as John TFT above. Serve the mono/fluoro leader line inserted into hollow spectra with a spliced end loop to loop (Cat's Paw) for the leader to main line connection. Love Basil's BHP topshots!

    Simple and easy...

    - Jeff Burroughs
     
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  10. Soda Pop

    Soda Pop I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    You want lazy ..... OOKKAAYYY I buy my Wahoo leaders from John at Trophy tackle.... gives me more time to do the Soda dance...... OOOKKAAYYYY..... LOL... I also use Basil wind on's..... have a soda and a smile...
     
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  11. Sactotuna

    Sactotuna Well-Known "Member"

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    Best thing is you can call him and he'll take as much time as you need getting it 100% right!
    Nice guy, awesome fisherman.
     
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  12. Miss Fitz

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    You guys are funny... Clunk, clunk LOL

    yeah, roller guides are old school, but that shit STILL works!

    I'm slowly moving my heavy rods up to the "elitist" class in an attempt to keep up with the cool kids :nutkick:
     
  13. vegasandre

    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    What is a roller guide?

    "When I was in school we didn't have any cell phones or internet and our Mom told us to go outside and play all day and then we walked to school in 3 feet of snow"

    I had all the roller guides yanked off my trolling rods even and put turbo guides on them. Just didn't like how the line went through them.
     
  14. Soda Pop

    Soda Pop I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Rol

    We use to have to wait an hour for a potato to cook in the oven..... there were no microwave ovens in those days....
    No more roller guides for me..... I have all ringed guides. They seem to work better for getting the sardines away from the boat. I fish with guys that use the roller guides.... Old school..............
     
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  15. Miss Fitz

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    Hey Dave-

    I still prefer my spuds oven cooked or BBQ coal cooked. Microwaves suck LOL

    So next question...if you were going SUPER cow shopping>>>east coast BFT, would you still go with ringers for live bait? :profile:

    I don't see many unlimited rigs (80W and 130W) that aren't roller guide matched. Am I missing something?
     
  16. JohnTFT

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    In the GBFT fishery here on the east coast, roller guides are used so that the swivel from the topshot to the leader can be reeled right on to the reel.


    That is the main reason why ring guides are not used.
     
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  17. SlideRight

    SlideRight Just Fishin'

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    & then there's a bit of slack followed by a sudden snap followed by....'shit, what happened!!!???'
     
  18. Miss Fitz

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    Ok, so now I'm even MORE confused....for GBFT, it's "cool" to use swivels to connect top shots to spectra and use giant roller guides that wind straight through, no busted leaders. But for YFT roller guides apparently lead to parting lines??? I'm still NOT buying the hype of straight ringed, not to mention serving and crimping take FOREVER, especially if your spectra is wet. If I recall, there was a time that the bimini/worm, bimini/Albright were the go to and had great success. I see no data that makes me think ringers are better. I think I'm gonna keep rockin my Member Only jacket and roller skates!!! Yeah Baby, YeeeEEEaaaahhhh!:rockin:
     
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  19. JohnTFT

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    We are using either a loop to loop connection or inline splice to go from the spectra or dacron, to the mono topshot. A swivel is used from the topshot to the fluorocarbon leader which is around 30' long.

    There is no reason why you could not use wind on roller guides and swivels for LR fishing.

    But, you have to wear your members only jacket with your Puma sneakers to be taken seriously.
     
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    Anyone who has unused/unwanted roller guides laying around, I'll buy 'em off you.
     

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