Discussion in 'Southern California Offshore Fishing Reports' started by J_Rudd, Oct 9, 2017.
Hell Raiser jigs, more hooks = more fish to gaff
Almost looks like my tackle less a few hooks
Black socks it is
I love the postmortem analysis of the terminal tackle. Great info for those wanting that fish of a lifetime.
Thanks for taking the time to post pics of the set up and damage. Loved it....
I love this. Can't help but wonder if it would end up having the "treble hook effect" where you can't a get a good hook set on any one hook because the pressure is being spread across so many hooks. Then again, maybe he just comes up a hooked, snagged, bloody mess.
Black socks did it. Nobody will be able to convince me otherwise.
I'm an engineer. I can't help myself. Always looking for a design improvement. This here is a game of details.
So, my question is, if you want to put on a single hook using a split ring, how strong does th split ring have to be? Say you are aiming for 150lb bluefin, do you need a 150 lb rated split ring? How hard can a bft pull. Or, do you use a split ring rated just above your top drag setting? Just curious.
Yeh , I really wonder if a fish says to himself, "man that jig has too many hooks, I better eat the one with one big one instead"....no , rather he says "dang there's some food,
I better eat it before someone else does."
Instinct triggers feeding in animals.
Awesome! THanks for the story and the analysis!
I have to admit I ripped this idea off the guy's on the Thunderbird. Jeff and Andrew have caught a bunch of big Bluefin this year on the Hell Raiser and haven't lost one with these jigs yet. If one pulls another seems to just bury more. I'm guessing the more the fish shakes his head the more hooks set.
Would love to hear an educated answer to this man’s question if someone could share...
Rad great write up and beautiful fish congrats !!
Jeremiah, I re-rig all of my falling-leaf lures (Shimano or other brands) with a big, strong Owner split ring to hold the big single hook, which varies from 6/0 up to 9/0 as I consider appropriate for the size of the lure. The manufacturer's assist hooks get moved up to the top of the lure, where another multi-hundred pound Owner split ring is installed. I'm not concerned with them holding, they are extras, just to help.
I think that a lot of the time people fishing the falling-leaf design lures are bit&spit and don't even know it. I know that it has happened to me. I have several lures that wore the original assist hooks that have teeth scratches and I haven't fought a fish with them. The fish rockets up from below, inhales the lure and goes "GAH!" and spits it out, all in a second of time. The assist hooks never get a chance to get a purchase in the mouth unless the fish turns to the side.
I don't know if this is an "educated answer" but it is what I do, after watching a friend out-fish me three to one with his tricked-out lure while I was using the factory hooks, and getting spit.
I'm on the water every single day and the best piece of advice I can give is don't rig with one single j hook, recipe for disaster. The more low profile hooks the better, a stinger at the top and at the bottom of the big is perfect. J hooks have a smaller chance at catching in there mouth and they ware a hole in the sides of there mouths.
Have you seen anyone using circle hooks on them be effective?
Rig the circle ahead of the lure, tie lure to bend in hook with Kevlar leader, corner hookup every time.
J_Rudd how many yards of braid did you have on the 665H?
Not sure. Borrowed setup from my buddy. It was moderately full. Not that it matters. I had him hooked at about 25 fathoms and horsed him from there. He didn't run much, so the line capacity never came into play. Having said that, I always say more line is better.
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