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Howdy guys. I am on the hunt for my first bluefin this season and I have a couple short range trips booked. I am wondering what setups you guys take on your shorter trips and how they are rigged? What rod reel line leader hooks etc... I want to know exactly what I should bring. I have multiple of every line class up to 60#. Looking forward to the replies.. Thanks
 
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JamesTaylor

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Bring gear to catch everything from 5lb yellowtail to 200lb bluefin on all of those trips....unless it's a bluefin or bust trip, then just bring your big guns.
Ok so 20 30 40 50 60 80 and 2 jig sticks. I am really trying to limit the amount of setups I bring if they are redundant. Any of these I should take off?
 
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    I try to limit myself to 5 set ups. The last few years I made the swith to straight spectra 65-100 lbs on two speed reels and switch the leader as needed. I bring an Accurate ATD 6 with 100 lbs spectra on a 1X3 equivalent rod that I can use flat falls or 50 through 80 leader as needed. I have an Accurate Dauntless 600N with 80 lbs spectra on a med heavy 8ft rod for bait that I can fish 30 to 50 lbs. An Accurate 500 dauntless with 65 spectra on a med 9 foot rod that I can use 30 to 40 leader for bait. An accurate dauntless 500N with 9 foot med/light jig stick with 65 spectra for 20-25 leader for bait and I also double this up as a jig stick for heavier jigs, flat falls and sniper jigs. Lastly a Trinidad 16N with 65 spectra and about 150 yards of 40 mono on a jig stick strictly for jigs. I've eliminated trolling rod and redundant set up to minimize how much I have to lug around. Also, most of the cow tuna are coming on kite rigs or other similar set ups which most sport boats have and work on rotation.
     
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    OOh and I also rig up my bait set ups ahead of time and keep them on old floro spools for quick rigging. If I need to swap leaders a quick Tony Pena knot does the trick.
     
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    Ok so 20 30 40 50 60 80 and 2 jig sticks. I am really trying to limit the amount of setups I bring if they are redundant. Any of these I should take off?

    Last year I really tried to limit the set ups I bring on trips.

    This is what I usually bring now....

    1. bait 20-30# Trinidad 14a/50# braid with a 30# mono topshot.

    2. bait 40# Torque 25NLD2/65# braid with a 40# mono topshot.

    3. 50-60# bait/sinker rig Mak15T/80# braid with a 50 or 60# mono topshot.

    I change out short flouro leaders accordingly with the set ups above.

    4. 80-100# FF rig Torque 60LD2 100# braid straight to a pre made FF made with 150-200# mono.

    5. 40 or 50# Jigstick Trinidad 20a/65# braid with a LONG mono topshot.

    I could probably even eliminate another set up if I needed to. Having a mono topshot really helps consolidate set ups.
     
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    Last year I really tried to limit the set ups I bring on trips.

    This is what I usually bring now....

    1. bait 20-30# Trinidad 14a/50# braid with a 30# mono topshot.

    2. bait 40# Torque 25NLD2/65# braid with a 40# mono topshot.

    3. 50-60# bait/sinker rig Mak15T/80# braid with a 50 or 60# mono topshot.

    I change out short flouro leaders accordingly with the set ups above.

    4. 80-100# FF rig Torque 60LD2 100# braid straight to a pre made FF made with 150-200# mono.

    5. 40 or 50# Jigstick Trinidad 20a/65# braid with a LONG mono topshot.

    I could probably even eliminate another set up if I needed to. Having a mono topshot really helps consolidate set ups.
    I'm pretty much doing this too. Maybe bringing one extra setup in the most common size being used around the trip departure, like if they are mostly been eating 40 leading up to the trip I'll try to bring 2 x 40lb setups.

    Lures: couple flat falls (at least one 250 or heavier with a heavy crimped leader), a couple colt snipers, a popper, a yoyo jig and a surface iron.
    Terminal tackle: some sinkers from 4-16oz, rubber bands, fluoro from 20-80 and hooks.

    Done.
     
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    Ok so I will bring
    15 ld2 for 20-30 bait
    25nld2 for 30-40 bait
    Hx raptor for 50-60 bait
    lexa 400 30# jig stick
    20a 50# jig stick

    my HX raptor is my heaviest reel I own and I have it on a Calstar 780xh 60-120. An 80# rod that also fishes 60. But I don’t know about 50. So I need to buy a 50# rod? Do they bite 50# often with bait? Or is it most often 30 and 40 leaders for bait?

    and also I have a osp 2x4 just sitting by itself lonely without a reel. So I was thinking
    50-60# rod (predator 80?) for HX raptor
    Mak 16 for 780xh 80#bait
    Mak 20 for 2x4 100# bait/ ff rig

    Should I get a mak20 or a mak16 first for flat fall rig and heavy bait?? I like the smaller size of the 16 but the 20 does everything the 16 does plus some. And will give me more options/bang for my buck.. sorry for the long winded response and endless questions
     
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    Ok so I will bring
    15 ld2 for 20-30 bait
    25nld2 for 30-40 bait
    Hx raptor for 50-60 bait
    lexa 400 30# jig stick
    20a 50# jig stick

    my HX raptor is my heaviest reel I own and I have it on a Calstar 780xh 60-120. An 80# rod that also fishes 60. But I don’t know about 50. So I need to buy a 50# rod? Do they bite 50# often with bait? Or is it most often 30 and 40 leaders for bait?

    and also I have a osp 2x4 just sitting by itself lonely without a reel. So I was thinking
    50-60# rod (predator 80?) for HX raptor
    Mak 16 for 780xh 80#bait
    Mak 20 for 2x4 100# bait/ ff rig

    Should I get a mak20 or a mak16 first for flat fall rig and heavy bait?? I like the smaller size of the 16 but the 20 does everything the 16 does plus some. And will give me more options/bang for my buck.. sorry for the long winded response and endless questions

    I wouldn’t bother with a 30# jigstick. Bring the 50#.

    I don't see a need for a separate 50# rig. If they bite 50#, they'll bite 60#. An 80 Predator would be a great choice. I have the 76 version.

    I've had both, a 16 and a 20. Those reels are tanks and weigh as much as one. Flat falling with those heavy set ups gets old quick. Got rid of them both. This year I'm going in a lighter direction on my Centaur. If I had the choice, I would go with the smaller 16 which I think is plenty for local BF.
     
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    Personally I would suggest leaving the 30,50,and one jig stick home
    That should cover all your basic stuff
    As for tackle you should have sizes 2/0-2 at least for what ever kind of hooks you want
    But it’s best to ask the crew what you really need
    And good luck
     
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    I've made a lot of trips and caught at least an equal share of fish, and until the past several years I only took three rigs: 20#, 40# and 80# reels (80# a 2speed) on quality rods that I could cast well. The 20# got the most hookups overall, and didn't loose many fish if they were under thirty pounds. The 40# was for lures mostly, but also for bigger fish, and again didn't loose many, except for damn yellowtail around structure. The 80# was for trolling (because I really like playing with my own trolling lure setups) and heavy lures for deep tuna. Being 100% familiar with the gear and capabilities really helps both in getting bit and putting maximum pressure on the fish during the fight.

    Now with physical issues in my left hand, I take six rigs with me offshore. The same quality conventional gear, plus similar ratings or as close as possible in spinning gear. I usually have a spare conventional reel or two in my backpack in case of need, but I have never had to replace a reel on a trip.

    Taking a whole quiver of rods and reels on a trip is fine with me if you want to do it. Just HAVING a whole bunch of tackle on a trip is a real joy to some people, and I see that all of the time. But if you can avoid going down that rabbit hole your life will be simpler, and at the end of the trip you will have just as many fish wearing your tag.
     
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    Yup. And there was still plenty of open rod holders.

    Oh the horror!

    I’m that guy too! When Taro (Liberty) is going offshore on a 5am-5pm trip For BFT, I’ll bring 20/25, 30, 40, 50, 60 and an 80/100#. I go on the weekdays where there is typically les than 30/35 people. So there is plenty of room.

    It is just like buying beer when taking the boat out in Havasu, “Better to have to much and not need it, than to need it and not have it”

    I figure, I’ve got the gear, may was well use it. I’m on a 3 day in April, I will probably have 11 rods.
     
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    I am still going to call the landing the week of the first trip and see what they recommend. So a 25# rig, 1 or 2 40# rigs, a 60/80# and a 50# jig stick. In the past years in April and May, What rig do you guys use most often when flylining for bft?
     
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