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Anyone know if they will have the reel maintenance booth at the show this year?

Per the show seminar schedule he's due to speak on Saturday too.

Steve, how big a difference is it between the X9 20lb and 30lb for the slow pitch?

Is it better to go with 100lb hollow, 130lb hollow or a combo of both with a depth hunter finish for the last 500'?

A couple of surface irons and yo yo jigs. I'd rent a big game set up, the 40 fathom ins't up to 100lb duty.

Check with the Cat Express office, I'm betting they won't be running in this weather and guessing lack of passengers. That said if you do go bring a bass rod or spinner and you can catch calico's all day off the end of the green pier, lot of fun. If you're just kicking around watching the rain...

Nope, no issues when shifting\ after changing the handle

I always have the captain or the deck hands check it for me even after setting it with a scale.

One advantage of a 6 pack is they can stop on much smaller schools that may be biting than the sporties that need to catch for 30. If it's the same length of trip you can cover more ground on a 6 pack

16, has enough guts for 250lbs and won't kill you with the weight standing at the rail

Love my VISX 16, just sent to Cal's to BP, but picked up the 20 just because..... Fish of a lifetime

Hey Alan, wanted to see if the spec's on the 20 is still the same, doesn't need tuning out of the box? Just picked one up

Are you using an x length of fluoro to the jig? How are you connecting it to the braid?

The deals were not the same as past Hall shows, like buy 2 packs of hooks get one free, same for jigs and most terminal tackle that I saw. More deals on higher end items like reels and rods. Next year they need to expand their seminar seating most were SRO

Back in the day it was short rods for heavier fish. Is there still a place for 6'6" rods in party boat fishing? Seems 7 1/2 is now the min.

Why not do like Shimano and have a reel service seminar at the shows. You bring in your reel and they go over how to change drags, lube etc, Nothing major just basic service

Dana Landing either off the loading dock or go around the corner and cast from the walkway or the rocks.

Looking at a 9' stick, do you prefer a deckhand style or a reel seat?

Thanks, this would be a second 15xn so dedicated to this type of fishing although anything over 400' sounds exhausting.

Steve, is 20lb the heaviest you'd go on the braid for slow pitch?

Part of the issue is this time of year used to be down time for the industry, boats, tackle shops etc but with the continuous bluefin now there is no break and it's more economical for them to stay home and make sales than send a group to staff a show which used to be the main way to get...

San Diego Tackle Traders, you can pick up a used heavy reel for a bit more than a new Fathom. May even check out Cal's Customs Reels as they sell previously blue printed ones as well

Spend less on gear and more on trips. Have to convince myself i've got enough stuff and just go!

I have some duplicate reels, VISX 16/Shimano Speedmaster 25, Fathom 40/Speedmaster 16, also a Fathom 30, all 2 speeds. Thinking of selling off some and putting it to a 20VISX or maybe upgrade to Torque's?

Part of the issue is the Gen 1's so over preformed that we get spoiled. As an angler that is on a budget I'm elated that there is an affordable options that gives me a reasonable chance to land quality fish and still lets me afford the trip, the other stuff is just pablam.

They make a quality product

I've had friends who just loved to go out and wanted the company. I would bring breakfast and beer/ice. Help clean the boat and fish and buy bait. I have friends who aren't as well off and i'll also kick in for gas.

If you're jigging I'd go with the xxh for more lifting power

Depending on the line your fishing, may want to go xxh

I second the graftech. That said, I'd sell that 50 and then start saving for the correct set up, every landing has top quality rental gear as well as many of the boats. Don't spend more money trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

I currently have Costa's and Hobie's, for the money difference the Hobie's are a good deal. I should stipulate I do by my Costa's when on sale at sites like woot.

For that money I'd check out Bight Sportfishing, Brandon Heywards fleet, and fish seabass and maybe yellows, much better odds

That's my go to store, good stock and helpful

Anyone else a member? Do they ever hold meetings? I'm currently with the Orange County chapter but looking to transfer and can't find any info.

While Tony Reyes is a cool trip, may be easier to do a Cedros trip https://www.cedrossportfishing.com/index.php

So basically processing yourself. I like the idea of vac sealing there, make it easier to pack and shill. Whats the drive time from LA/LBC area?

How do you get there, fly, drive? Is there fish processing?

What is the better option. A local bluefin trip to the banks or rock fishing/yellowtail in MX, for say a 1.5 day.

Want to get out before April and maybe pull on YT, which boat is the GOAT?

I've got the full version and love them

Your best bet would probably off the finger piers out by the aquarium and the lighthouse park. Especially now with a bunch of fresh water coming down the river channel, should get the bugs moving.

Steve, what would you spool the 15xnld with for multi-purpose use, jigging as well as flylining baits? Mine currently has 50lb braid for general non-slow pitch use.

Partial digested squid

Everyone bitching about bonito taste is because they don't take care of their catch. BFT would suck if left in a gunny sack for 8hrs in the hot sun. Bleed and ice immediately.

I'd get some ointment on that, but hey infection is cool

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Good stuff guys, could say food for thought.

I'd say for what it does a 30 or 20 Torium would suit better for what we do, unless you're targeting wahoo down south.

It's not meant for catching the same fish as a larger 2sp, For a jig reel it's about as good as it gets.

Inflated real estate prices aren't part of inflation. Inflations is the effect on goods and services not what a market will bear.

No, but that price was for limited loads from covid, now they've also upped the number of passengers for the same price

VISX 16 is awesome, light weight and ready to rock. That said that's my 100lb reel and I use a Fathom 40ld2sp as my 80lb.

Put a 16VISX handle on my 40, just had to drill the extra hole but works great

Back when I had mine spooled up it was all about 65lb. Thinking now more like 40-50lb max?

If it's gear for Central CA down to Cabo, PCS may be your best bet since that's what it caters to If PCS gets the big vendors. Otherwise the Hall show will have more diversity and possibly more large vendors.

Looking to get out this weekend 12/3, possible rain in So Cal 12/1-12/4, how much does this effect the rockfish fishing? Will be leaving from Dana Point.

Yes, you're good. If you have the money for that rod/real combo get it otherwise, spent the money on 3 trips.

Put them on a rod and pull. I debated between the 16 & 20 VISX and went with the 16 for size and weight, just felt right. If I need a true 130lb outfit i'll rent it. I also don't plan on pulling any heavier drag than I can generate with the 16VISX

Tight lines and boiling fish, rest easy.

I'd add a star drag for 40lb that can double as a jig and bait reel, budget Torium 20 or Fathom 25 match with a 6485 30-60lb rod and you're good. I'd also add another conventional reel or small 2spd for 20-30lb like a fathom 15ld2 either narrow or stanard.

Recently acquired one, not sure what to use it for? Any thoughts/suggestions? Currently spooled with 375yrd of 65lb spectra.

If you already have the 15NLD2 you've got your 30lb set up, no need for another unless you just want to buy gear. That said the max drag ratings on these smaller reals are kind of irrelevant, you aren't going to be pulling 20-24lbs of drag when fishing 20-30lb line.

Leaving Friday on a 2.5 day. Have a VISX 16 as my 100lb wondering if I should use my Fathom 40NLD2 or my Speedmaster 25 as my 80lb outfit?

I'm not that optimistic on the fish processing. I've got enough to cover a 30lb, 40lb, 50lb, 60ld and 80 and 100lb just don't want to bring the whole garage

Great tip, thanks. I'm hoping my AFTCO Reaper hoodie will cover me for warmth

Won it in a raffle and since i wasn't shopping for it not sure what niche it should fill? 50-60lb or more a 30-40?

copy that!

My first trip over a day in the last couple of years. I've got the gear just not sure what to limit it to.

Sent you a text, don't stop me from having a good time. :-)

Anyone else going, loved it the year prior to Covid. Treking down from the LBC to grab some deals.

Did the same change out, would love to know the outcome.

This is probably the best time to be on the water weather wise. I've caught BF in December, just don't go less than an 1.5 day.

I went with the xtra tuff's ankle boots, since i found them on sale for $70, otherwise would go with the Shimano's, everyone i've talked to who has them loves them, 2 pair of socks it also key.

On Kona there are some operators that do combo inshore/snorkle trips which would be more like So Cal fishing, otherwise as mentioned it usually a boat ride with heavy gear. Most boats will allow you to keep enough for dinner as well.

They are 2 different shows. PCS is strictly southern CA saltwater fishing, including baja. The Hall shows are everything, fresh/saltwater, hunting, camping, boating and travel destinations so will be bigger just for that alone,

Don't use any rod upside down, the spline of the rod is meant to bend in one direction to provide performance. As stated the 30LD2 is way overkill even if bait fishing in a holder. Pick up a cheaper star drag and an 8-9" casting rod.

Latest update from Captain Matt on the San Diego. Go to rig is your 40lb, fly line outfit gets bit fine and allows you to handle bigger fish if they bite and land the school grade quickly so you can get back in the water. Next is 30lb outfit if you need to drop down or have caught a few...

I'd wager 99% of the fish you get in a sushi restaurant or ones serving sushi/sashimi has been frozen. Doubt anyone is trucking unfrozen fish more than a few miles from where it's offloaded and processed.

There comes a point where technology ends and you still need to be an angler and fish. What is the fun in this? Fishing was never supposed to be easy.

My local tackle store does it, costs $10, many boats are doing it now for a fee.

Turner's, Performance Tackle in Los Alamitos to name 2,

I think 40lb mono is the go to mostly. Check out a recent podcast on Friedman Adventures Youtube channel, they interview guys from Tady and they discuss different line size in relation to how jigs swim. Sorry don't have the link handy

yeah, that's part of the conundrum, limits vs oportunity.

Where can you fish out of? I'll let you know what I book if you want to meet up.

Looking to get out on an overnight leaving 9/1 and fishing Friday. Found 2 boats in SD with room at $325 and one in LB at $240. Are the opportunities better driving down to SD and spending the extra money or just as good from LB. I've notice mostly dorado for the boats from LA down to Dana...

Looking for an overnight boat, my options are 2 out of the SD landings at $325 per, or one from Long Beach, where I live, at $240. Are the options out of SD worth the extra $$ now or should be as good from the LB landing?

Short of a Tranx 500, that's just for popper fishing, leave the bass rods in the rack when fishing tuna.

your other option it to use that money for a trip and then rent the big gear. Good way to go and you get to try before you buy.

I've done it on smaller fish, like rockfish/bass. it's not that hard to do but when you're in a bit and they are stuffing the fish in a bin it does get a bit complicated. I'd settle for taking out the brain and bleeding. If you have time before they put the in the hold then go for the the...

Regardless of the fishing, it's a beautiful area, bring snorkel gear and I think they still let you hike on some of the islands if you're close enough.

yeah, how times change. I seem to remember when they raised prices to accommodate the Covid protocols all the landings saying everyone loves the reduced loads even for a bit higher price and we're going to keep doing this.

Have an open day on 8/14 so I booked a 3/4 day, advertised as limited load. Checking the fish counts the landings 3/4 day boats had 52 and 54 passengers. WTH? I guess it's limited to less than 60. In my experience locally when fishing for surface fish anything over 40 is a cluster.

The ones that say skipper/crew didn't want to catch fish, just drive around all day are usually a dead give away of a review that shouldn't be published.

If he's just dropping down and not casting then a 300-400 size bait caster would be perfect. I'd also consider a 6000 size baitrunner type spinning reel on a 7-8' rod for flyline

8' for that size line class, makes casting easier, better able to move around the hull when the fish is close to the boat. Also if anchovy are in the bait you'll want that extra length.

Not sure how far it is from O'side but may be a better bet. In addition to the event if fishing is still hot you'll have a ton of boats launching to get to the SCI area

Couple of places, they can park in the lot by West Marine/Schooner or Later and just walk down the dock or by Ballast Point at the end of Marina Dr and meet you where the boat rentals are on the dock, that's the easiest.

I believe that's intended to store your gear before boarding and not excess stuff while on the trip. Either way, call the landing and ask and yes it's shared so not really secure for long term.

Depends, Dana is the closest landing to SCI. If you like calico bass and want to mix it up it's a great landing. Boats and crews are good and the parking is free. For the drive back I just take PCH all the way to Long Beach, nice and relaxing.

Did you order your shoe size or go one larger?

Go to YouTube and check out Vagabond Basser, he's the night driver on the boat and you'll get plenty of info. He does fish but usually hook/hand or to help fill limits.

gyros are a true game changer, ask most captains and they would rather leave the dock without a sonar than their gyros if fishing tuna/yellows. If you can't afford the gyros then a good quality 10x50 pair will get you going

When ordering boots, do you go 1 size larger than your shoes?

The swell is more important than the height until you get over like 6'. I think the rule is the period should be at least 2x's the height, then you get to figure in the wind.

You are really comparing apples to oranges. The 7-8 day trips are able to get much further south and give you a shot a more species. The 2-4 day trips will give you more fishing time in the local zones of the 1 and 1.5 day trips. Unless the conditions crash and you need to get 100+ miles down...

Check with the Ranch, pretty sure you can rent or they loan surf gear, no need to bring anything except the tackle part.

RP/John Collins knot and make some knot pullers. Cut up a 1" dowel and wrap with electrical tape, easy peasy.

Need a new pair, my XtraTuffs don't seem to be lasting and not really comfy. What are you guys wearing and what are you doing for comfort, insoles, 2 pairs socks, buy one size larger?

Second this, add the Penn Carnage rods to match and you're set.

I'd go with a Fathom 25nld2 one of the most versatile reels out there and with the new Gen 2 coming out can be had for under $250. Add a fathom 40 2spd and match the rods and you're good to go.

You're comparing apples to oranges with Torque and Fathom

My 78XXH us 14" from the start of the grip

If going more than a 1.5 i'd suggest a roller so you can carry your clothes, bedding etc in your backpack.

I second, make him YOUR priority, not the crews. They will help regardless. Also, this is not a "cattle boat" that's 80 guys on a half day. Make sure you and your son speak to the crew early and tell them, newbie here and want to learn, they'll take care of you, then tip them out.

Pretty work, just got the annual park pass so will be hitting up HB and Bolsa Chica regularly.

I use my tranx 500 for throwing poppers/stick baits and some jigs. If you want a dedicated jig real Trinidad 20a and don't look back.

I have 2 of the GOF83XH rated 50-60, per the Graftech rep these were specifically designed for bluefin fishing.

I fish the twilight regularly out of 22nd St and have not had an issue in the parking lot. Other than Dana Wharf most parking lots are sketchy.

It depends on how much hiking you want to do. There are fire roads and dirt trails that will get you to a lot of coves/beaches but it's not an easy trek.

Alan how about rigging out the 16VISX

There are a few videos on youtube of guys doing just this, search there.

Where do you set the strike lever, 3rd position?

Say fishing 100lb do you shoot for a certain percentage at different stops, like 10lb at 1, 23 at 3 etc. Or do you set up max drag and strike? Is there a break point where you lose free spool?

I believe Fisherman's Landing stopped shipping rods at least ones over 8' as the cost was way to prohibitive, more than have the cost of the rod in some cases.

I've got a 217 yellowfin from a boat in HI, fought it from the chair and it was a fucking battle. Yes I count that fish!

Thanks everyone for the replies. Did the copper wire trick for now and will order a new frame when they come back in stock next month

Will it make it a better reel, Hell Yes! Will it put it on par with heavy framed reels, etc. No.

Replies are correct, totally different fish from CA to southern sheepshead. Most of the catches i've seen are around jetties or structure, i'd go with a 20lb fluoro leader then depending on your setup maybe a 10lb mono breakaway to the weight.

I wish great boat and Gregg is a hell of a skipper, leaving for Catalina on the 28th so can't really get the wife on board for that. :0

Leave the bass gear at home, switch your Torium 16 to the Teramar, The Torium 20 is fine as is, I'd add a Fathom 40ld2 and maybe a Fathom 25ld2 as well then a solid jig stick to mount your Torium 20 on, rent the heavy gear.

Man, what boats are you riding? Cheapest i've seen is $4, they're barely making money at $2

Coors Light or a flask.

I have a couple of 6'6" heavy rods, that would fish 60-100lb. Is anyone using rods this short on the sport boats? My other gear is all 7'6" to 9'. I was thinking of using them as backups or maybe for yoyo?

Sweet, will be ordering the handle ASAP

I feel ya, I've had one cut out of my face and one on my arm

Noticed a funking scab on my head a couple of weeks ago. Went to the dermatologist today and had 5 different pieces of pre-cancer frozen off. Don't neglect you skin. Sunscreen and SPF 50 shirts and hats guys, it's no joke what can happen.

Anyone know off hand what the size is? 8-32?

According to Frank LoPreste, the high cost at Petfco is the reason for removing the free 72hr parking as non-fishing people were parking there and then Ubering to the game to save on parking. From what i understand the lots controlled by the landings will be reasonably priced it's the other's...

I stripped one of the screws trying to get it on a deckhand style rod, is it possible to tap it out or do I need a new frame?

I bought the 16 because i liked the overall feel except the handle. I loved the fit on the 20. Can you put a 20 handle on the 16?

I think he's on point, it will fish plenty of drag for what the reel is designed for. For the most part people can't begin to pull the max drags these reels claim especially standup with no harness.

All good suggestions, I do prefer a rod at least 7' 1/2" feet going to 8' so you can get around the boat hull as well as other anglers.

I like the feel of the 16 much better than the 20, weight really ramps up.

Apparently big in the fly fishing world

Just say a Steve Abel bag mentioned in a Western Outdoor News article and was wondering what is everyone using? If you've had a Steve Abel is it worth getting the bigger 15 day over the 10?

I've got a Shimano Speedmaster 25ii but feel like I may need a heavy framed reel. I've talked myself into the Penn, what other options should I consider or is my current reel adequate?

Thanks Steve.

Steve are you using hollow or sold spectra?

Which rod would be the best fit>. For the 15ld the 1540 8' seems good but would the 2550 be a more versatile choice? For the 25ld2 I'd be replacing a Cal Star 6480 glass rod

What other than big tuna is it good for? Primarily fish 1-3 day from SD, thinking of pulling the trigger butttt....

If you're going to SD anyway I'd just wait and hit Fisherman's Landing Tackle. They have a big selection and all the latest up to the minute info on what you need to take with you.

What size are you using? Are you laying it over the existing grip.

If fishing a 2 speed you're only going into low gear when the fish is straight up and down and you need to winch them up and need the cranking power.

Rule of thumb, you'd want the line you fish to be in the middle of the rod rating.

The Dana is a great hotel but the parking lot is not boat friendly. You are next to the dana launch ramp, not sure if there are guest slips but may be worth it to launch, park your boat/trailer and then spend a relaxing evening at the hotel. May be able to park across the street at Seaforth...

I'd skip the popper setup and get a trinidad 20a and an 8-9 rod. With that you can fish jigs or bait. The Penn VISX 16 is an awesome reel but if you truly want to target cows you'll need at least a 20 size for line capacity.

Also look at reels that are getting an update to the line like the Diawa Lexa's when they went to the Winn and the new level wind, they do a good markdown on the remaining stock and they work great.

Who is using fluoro to rig these verse say 200-400lb mono as the leader

Yep.

Does anyone fish 30lb? Seems most of the setups i see people carry 20, 25 and then go to 40lb.

I have the Fathom 15nxld2 filled with 50lb and am comfortable fishing everything from 25-40lb on it.

Just picked one up and the shop filled it with 50lb braid. Good call? Should i run some mono on top?

Yep, although a guy I trust uses 65 regular braid and does well.

As has been said, strip it and re-spool it with what you want.

How do you set yours? Straight braid topshot of mono?

How are you setting them up, straight braid to the lure/leader or a top shot of mono, like 20 yards?

Everything eats Grunion, lay them out flat and freeze them for future use.

Penn VISX 16, smaller and lighter.

Captain Matt from the San Diego has a great video on this on their patreon account under Captains Concepts. See if you can find that.

When you guys replace the hooks on your heavier jigs, do you re-use them on say smaller knife/flatfalls?

I find using the rail and putting one knee down relieves the stress on my back.

Calstar 6480 glass.

Same except i use the Tranx 500

There have been small schools spotted around the Coronado's.

Since it looks like you are going budget and assuming local islands up to 1.5 day i'd go with a Penn Fathom 25ld2, can fish 30-50lb sweet spot at 40 and cast bait, jigs, do dropper loop etc, great all around reel.

Doug and the boys went above and beyond. Good deals on gear, raffle prizes and some surprise guests doing seminars. If you have a chance hit up day 2 tomorrow.

Thanks, looking forward to your seminar this weekend at Fisherman's Landing.

was thinking for 80lb sinker fishing

Steve, would that also apply to sinker rig fishing or as noted earlier would a 12visx or other heavy frame reel be better?

Cool, I've got the 40 with 80lb braid on a Proteus 70xxh hoping that does the trick

2 Graftech F83XH' for 50-60lb bait jigs. Some knife and flatfalls, fluoro at turners and shirts.

I think Shimano makes a folder with clear storage bags.

Looking at a heavy frame reel and not sure by looking at the specs, which one is everyone using and what is the setup?

was thinking of using it for the heavy sinker rig or the "light" flat fall/knife jig rig. Will it handle 80lb top shots?

The Penn Fathom's seem to be everywhere, what's up with the Speedmaster line? Not as good, not as hyped? Anyone using them and what are you catching?

Totally different shows, Fred Hall was more a sportsmans show, hunting, fishing, camping, boating etc. PCS is strictly saltwater fishing

These came out about the same time as the Penn Fathoms but I hear or read about is the Penn. So and so uses them as their rental gear or loaner gear. Does anyone fish the Speedmasters? What uses and any quality fish taken on them?

hey, stay home or go fishing then.

that's a hella hike from there, especially if you have a ton of shit.

You need assist cord 200-300lb, solid rings, heavy duty split rings, heavy duty hooks 6/0-9/0 and have at it.

So what deals are everyone after? Seminars look a little sparse but what y'all attending?

Chevron on Bolsa and Edinger and stop at Pacific Edge for some gear.

The speedmaster's are all 2 speeds. The 20 would be the same as the Talica just without some of the upgraded materials. I have my 25 set up with 100lb braid to fish heavy jigs/sinker rigs.

Seeker Corey Sanden special

If you're coming to OC just go to the Pacific Coast Sportfishing show next weekend. Tone of vendors and deals.

I'd go 65# braid, can't see getting 500yd of either that or 80# on that reel

The best option would be to book with Brandon Hayward, Billy K or Duane Diego on their boats. All the gear and they score fish.

Nice, that's what properly taken care of Bonita looks like.

Steve, any idea on the price point on the rod?

You're the one pulling on them, what feels better for you and then match to what you intend to target.

Looking to match up with the new Penn's or any good suggestions.

Call the landings for the boats you want to ride and see is a general waitlist or get on the one for the trips you are interested in.

Anyone know where to find a list of the vendors attending or when they might be updating the website?

Actually the vaccine makes it significantly less likely that you will contract covid, spread it, become ill from it or need hospitalization but whatever.

Looking for something to fish 15-30lb that isn't a bass reel, i prefer to fly line with a conventional. Star drag or lever drag and if a lever single or 2spd.?

Looking for something in the lighter line class range that's not a bass reel. Using local, islands and on trips up to 3 days.

Get a Penn Fathom or Torque 25nld2 and pair it with a CalStar 6480, best all around set up you can get.

Nice job, i'm heading out of 22nd St on Friday for the last hurrah and some NYE taco's.

Looking to get out one last time before I need to renew the license. Thinking either 12/28 or 12/31 due to the weather, what are you guys using to check conditions? Will be going out of Dana Point 3/4 day.

Honestly, you're choosing between all high quality reels and really can't go wrong. The best thing you can do is take your rod into a quality tackle store that stocks all these and try them out.

Dan, are they stocking the lake prior to the event?

Big 5 has plenty of rigs that would work. For salt I'd go with a 5000 size spinner or a 300 size bait caster

As stated if you want to specifically target cows, book with Bight Sportfishing, Billy K or Duane at Pinnacle Sportfishing. That's about as close as you'll get to a guarantee for the money.

Anyone know of shops in the LB area that will mark already filled reels? What do shops charge?

Once you've laid out 400' of line, how do you re-pack it tight on the spool? Just use a towel to apply tension? A weight on the end or do you even bother and just wind it back and use?

Check out a Torium 16 or 20 and pair it with a Californian rod from Turner's or a Graftech should get you in the game with quality gear for under $400.

Are you looking to go by yourself or take the kids? If taking the kids I'd recommend Dana Wharf, they even have kids fish free days with a paying adult.

For filming at distance you'll want a camera that can zoom. There are a few water resistant/proof cameras on the market i believe Sony makes one that is reasonable or if you have a higher end iphone/galaxy buy a dive case and use that.

If you fish party boats when the tuna show up or decent size yellows put it in the rack and get a beefier conventional or at least nothing smaller than a 400 size. I've been on 2 trips this year where a guy hooks up on the bass gear, takes 45 minutes and the school is gone while the rest of us...

I'm in the same boat so following. I haven't checked the Aztec but that is a great 1-3 day boat but there are others.

Heading out tomorrow 9/18 for a half day from Pierpoint in LB. Best part is it's with my son, so regardless of the catching,, the day will be perfect! Oh and add in breakfast burritos and a cheeseburger, BAM! Hoping for a mess of taco meat.

fingers crossed, that shit's deep.

these are my go to for most connections, have heard the Bob Sands is better for casting, will need to check that out.

The reel you have is a great 30-40lb reel for live bait or throwing iron, i wouldn't use it for more than that. I have mine paired with Seeker 6480.

just don't get too far from your umbrella drink.

Assuming you're fishing mostly sport boats, i'd go with an 8-9 rod and a 20 size reel, tons of options from Shimano, Penn, Okuma etc. Load it with 65lb spectra and about 100yds of 40lb mono. Many more options for bait, too many to list without more info.

I'd throw in some smaller hooks from #4-1/0.

Park down by Ballast Point, easy access to the dock used for the electric boats and then hit BP when they come back for dinner.

The seals won't bother ya. Now those pesky sealions are a different story. :-) Sorry pet peeve. Nice job on the tuna.

So what was the right rig to land it?

X2 on the passport.

If you want a shot at a 100lb fish i'd book with a smaller outfit like Bight Sportfishing or Billy K, better shot at it.

It's a party boat charter, boat provides rent rods.

there are a lot of options for this but if it's in your budget, i'd upgrade to a fathom 25sd or a torium 20. Both can be had for about $250

Bottom line is the boat/landing made a mistake, we're all allowed to make those. Now it comes down to how they handle it, vouchers, $$, etc for other trips?

I'd go with a GoPro, something from a 7 on up. Get extra batteries. they go quick, and multiple mounts, chest, heat/hat and stick. Checkout some Youtuber's and maybe shoot them a message on what they use, FishNSips it good.

Going on a private charter for a full day out of Dana Point as a guest. I was thinking of bringing 5 setups however the boat is smaller, 50'er, What is your opinion on using a 40lb out fit to also fish 30lb with a change of fluoro leader to the mono topshot, same with 20-25lb etc vs a...

great reel for 40-50lb, load it with 65lb braid and have at it.

Like the stated 20% same as restaurant work, i do go over that if the service warrants it.

Everyone seems to forget, BD like Facebook, Twitter etc are PRIVATE companies that get to set their own rules for their products. If you don't like their policies do like Ali and crew did when they bailed on Allcoast to start their own gig.

If you charter the boat and want a certain captain and fishing plan you need to communicate that with landing ahead of time. It is your call since it's you're charter. We've all had bad trips for various reasons, chalk it up to experience and don't fish with that boat/owner again.

Go on the longest trip you can afford and have time for. More time on the water means more opportunities. As has been said your spinning gear will work, i'd rent for now or you can get a torium 20 with a decent rod for about $400 or less, or fathom etc.

So what effect does the big surf this week have on the fishing? Nothing? Don't bother? Just use a shorter leader?

some Plano 3700 tackle trays

Yes, i'd go and take my family however if you're worried about it go to Rancho Leonero and you can day trip to La Paz.

Which size, 15 or 25, star drag or 2 speed? Want something that will cast a medium live bait and has the power to put the hurt on the 25-40lb tuna we're currently seeing.

got to the landings websites etc and get on there waiting list. Often when a charter master has an opening he asks the landing to fill it. Once you get on just be a cool guy and you may get asked back.

I freeze all my fish before consumption, firms up the meet and lets the flavor come out, ask a sushi chef.

I come to BD to get away from all that stupid shit.

That or bring some frozen water bottles, can stuff a few in your tackle box and then add to the bag.

I like the swivel which reduces line twist due to the surf and allows me to fish different line sizes.

AFTCO is working on a gunny sack style insulated kill bag that you would take on the boat and hang in place of the sacks, hopefully it hits the market soon.

Go with 80lb, gives you more options with your leader material.

Everyone is allowed to make a mistake, it's how you deal with it that matters, sounds like you did it right. I am confused though, generally i'm so amped coming up to a trip my stuff is ready to go at the drop of a hat 3 days early. :-)

I have both a 30 & 40 as well as a speedmaster 16. From what i see need to be ready for everything from bass to tuna. Maybe the 30 for line capacity and load it with 50lb?

i"m looking at my tackle rack and they all say take me. :-)

If you're talking flyline i'd go with a conventional like a Penn Fathom 15 or the Torium 14, maybe lever drag with the new Penn 8? If you want a baitcaster type they all work just go with what feels good to you.

Fishing out of Dana Wharf this week and may chase tuna, should my 40lb outfit be a Fathom 25nld2 or a Tranx 500, both to fish bait and cast a jig at foamers if they show? Boat is full so trying to limit how may rods i bring.

Sorry, though i put in in the header, it's a 3/4 day.

I picked up a Speedmaster 25 and a Graftec rail rod for about $450

Awesome job, that's plenty of fish for a party.

Going out of Dana Wharf on Friday, is 5 setups too many? Taking everything from 15-40 or can I get by with a bass setup, 30lb bottom/flyline rig and a jig stick?

Torium 20 on a Seeker 6480 will handle pretty much anything you run into locally, 65 braid to 30-40lb mono topshot.

If you ask they'll usually throw some in.

Just, Fuck Yeah! Thanks for the tackle details as well.

Bait? Jigs? 40lb? what size hooks, did you need fluoro, details man we need details! Way to get them.

Seeing this more on the local 1/2 - full day boats at least in the OC/LA area. Used to pay $46 for a twilight not a big deal with 55 people at that price. Post C19 they went to $65 but 35 anglers, this was great. Now back to 55 and still $65, takes the fun out of the trip.

Make sure you're not letting the run too far before you set the hook and then have enough drag to stop them from getting back to cover.

You totally suck! In the best way. :-)

Dilly Dilly

Jigs, i'd fish at least 80lb, bait it's what the crew recommends.

Huk gear has good ones, AFTCO and Pelagic all the usual suspects.

I'm i wrong thinking it would be better to go later in the week due to the weather or would being on a sporty not be an issue?

good article in the latest WON on how to make your own. Remove the treble and ring, mount a single hook with a metal set screw.

I'd agree and unfortunately the landings have gone back to full loads with limited load prices.

Unfortunately these issues are as old as time. Really unless you get more enforcement it will never change.

i've got the 6000 and love it.

that's why i suggested the bottom fishing option, last time i was there i looked into a combo snorkel/fishing trip that maybe something for the wife as well.

What “extra” outfit do the slippers want to see? I usually don’t bring anything heavier that 40lb on these trips

I fish the Ahu Nui when there, not cheap but not the most expensive either. Google up some more info and look for one's that will also bottom fish, usually a better value.

wish they would have done that for the twilight last night.

what is everyone using? Fish from SD up to Long Beach mainly south OC to LA, thinking of ditching some of the bass gear for smaller conventional's. Thoughts/suggestions?

Embrace the coffee grinder, it's actually hard to get a lot of the west coast style gear we're used to out there. If you still want to fish that i'd recommend contacting tackle stores back here in Cali.

get there early and go to Fisherman's Landing Tackle and they'll set you up.

you click bait bastard. :-)

I was in the same boat a few years ago and started selling off some of my "vintage" reals and purchasing newer technology, kept the older rods. I view it like tech, would i rather have my older ok can get buy computer or one that allows me to do my work faster and better?

Fishing the area from San Clemente to San Pedro, what are your go to setups? Thinking of ditching the bass reals and maybe going smaller conventional?

I'm in flip flops all day but when i'm fishing it's deck boots, Getting stepped on, spiked by a sculpin, barracuda teeth and hooks. I'd advise getting a cushy pair of insoles.

everything from bringing fish back from SD to camping and home parties.

Time to replace my old igloo coolers, what’s the best option that won’t break the bank, like under $200? Looking for a 100+ and a 60

Assuming you already have the appropriate rod i'd spend the $280 plus spectra on a Fathom 40 or Speedmaster 20/25 if not at least rent one for the trip. As has been noted you don't want to lose the fish of a lifetime on a "good enough" reel.

Will be staying in Avalon for a week, other than the pier where are some good places to fish from shore? What type of setups are effective?

Hit up Dave Hansen's website www.yoursaltwaterguide.com and sign up for the trip planning. Also i'd recommend a subscription to fish dope, that and a bunch of time on the water with your dad just enjoying the adventure. :-)

with kids it's all about the bite and catching than it is the size of the fish, nice job.

The tug is the drug. See if you can get on a charter wait list, usually less crowded and you may get invited back if you aren't a douche. :-)

if you are in a hurry make a reservation with one of the processor and they should have it done early same day otherwise maybe trade fish with someone if they land something smaller that easily fits in a 100qt cooler.

I use the Nomad roller, with the heavier jigs and torpedo's now being used it nice not to have to carry a back via a strap plus can strap my clothes/misc stuff bag on top to get to the boat.

Disney is re-hiring otherwise i'd head down to a local landing and see what they have, talk to the captains/crews as they come in.

Remember to have them take the seasick meds the night before, it's a preventative and not a cure once sick. I'd start out inside the break wall and then move out as they get comfy, also plenty of bass around the oil islands and the area around the QM.

The knot you're referring to is the Springer Knot he ties, Just search google, john collins springer knot

I'm in the boat of too many. I'll usually bring a 300 lexa with 12-15lb, a 400 lexa with 20-25lb, a small lever drag for flyline on 20lg and a larger star drag w/ 30-40.

it's available at the photo shop

The daytime bite has been on smaller flatfalls/knife jigs so i'd probably sub out the 100lb for the jig stick if you had to choose.

get a membership to www.yoursaltwaterguide.com Dave has a few videos on setting up and reading your equipment.

I'd go 40n for the versatility, maybe switch out the handle?

i wouldn't be able to find anything with that level of organization. :-)

Is bringing a tackle backpack with 3 trays full of jigs, weights/hooks and plastics overkill for a 3/4 day? Please say no and that you understand.

Heading out on a 3/4 day this week in the OC and wanted to limit my gear. Looking to bring one set up to fish bass that can also double as a jig stick with a change of leader if needed. Debating between a Tranx 500 and Lexa 400 to primarily through leadheads or squid for bass but use as...

I was following a couple of other post where it was stated that they lost free spool when the real was in the strike setting between 12-20lbs of drag. What was the consensus fix for this? Send to Penn, open up and remove and re-grease and lube the real, do a full service? In my case it's not...

Definitely get the deck boots and a good pair of insoles, they'll last you several seasons so money well spent.

Which line rating do you use when selecting a rod for a certain application, the braid rating or the mono rating? If i have a rod that says 40-80lb braid but 15-30 mono, can you fish 40lb mono on it with 65lb braid? Or do you just go by the action, M/H etc?

I'd either go a fathom 25ld2, can still cast jigs, fish flyline and yoyo with a 6480 or something like a torium 20.

I went with a Speedmaster II 25 and a Graftech rod for my 100lb, out the door was about $500. That would leave you room for a jig outfit, i'd leave the 300 size reel at home.

How do you prefer to hook a sardine vs a mackerel vs an anchovy and do you change it when fly lining vs using a weight?

If you're a member of CCA there are local groups in SD, OC, IE, LA and Ventura you can join. PM me i'm in LB and fish 22nd down to Dana PT.

Question for those that have used the Winn grip tape, when wrapping a deckhand rod are you taking off the original cork wrap and then adding the Winn or going over it?

I had my 500pg changed to the HG gears and it took 3 months for the parts

All the landings have quality rental gear, maybe do that to see how you like it and also fish some of your "vintage" gear then jump in an purchase?

See Steve Carson's recent post on the 5 setup's you need, it's in the Penn forum or you can search it on youtube Searcher Sportfishing.

I'd suggest signing up at Dave Hansen's website www.yoursaltwaterguide.com, he has ton's of info on how to fish the areas you'll access as well as boating tips. For some onetime fee's he'll even put together a game plan for you for a given week/weekend.

Try halibut on the slack tides, they don't like big water movement.

Really nice multi purpose reel, Load it with power pro and use it as your jig reel, shallow water rockfish and heavy bass setup.

Recently saw someone i respect saying they use clips on their rigs to change out baits, swimbaits, jigs and even spinner baits. I've also heard if the lure maker thought a clip/swivel would make the lure work better it would come with the lure. What do you guys do?

Braid to FC i use the RP/John Collins know, SD jam for anything to hooks.

The last one fishing at 11:59p on 12/31

I got my son, who was 8 at the time, Shimano Baitrunner 6000 and a 7' Shimano rod, lower end. I still use this set today. :-)

Comes down to time on the water/sand. Try concentrating on 2hrs before and after high tide or the slack if fishing halibut. I highly recommend purchasing Bill Varney's book, Fish the Surf or check out his website.

I'd call your local landing or check their website, the order still allows for businesses to operate at reduced capacities so that makes it even more unclear.

I also like Corey Sanden's(MC Swimbaits) method. He ties directly to the hook then ties another knot with a separate leader down about 24" to a 1/2 to 1oz chrome torpedo sinker, works great for halibut and much stronger connection.

Thanks, think 80lb Max Quatro and call it a day, use my Torium 20 or Fathom 40 for yoyo

Is the retrieve fast enough for that? Same as the old jigmaster but figured the newer jigs were set for the faster 6:1 reels now?

what application would this reel have, i won one in a raffle and not sure if it's worth spooling up, selling/trading or switching out to the highspeed gears? Other than bait fishing or shallow water rock fishing not sure what to use it for.

My current jig setup is a Torium 20 loaded with 40lb. i've also got 2 lexa 400's. the tranx is the PG model.

If they are the town bicycles, i'd go with the fathom, many boats in the SD fleet use those as their loaners and the stand up well.

Just came into a Tranx 500, how should i set it up and what should I put it on?

Where did you go? Always been on the website and your daily 12p Facebook chat.

The Aztec has "staterooms" bunk areas sectioned off from 2 - 5 bunks plus TV's in the rooms. Greg is a great captain, very fishy and informative.

you're right guess i can't read the specs on Penn and Shimano's website that pretty much make what you just stated a nope.

Not sure the rational behind that, the Fathom 60 pulls less drag has a higher low gear and it's not topless

Would these work as legitimate big tuna reels 200+lbers, for fishing bait and flat falls?

Spec's on the 16 & 40 almost identical 20 and 25 more line and drag

The Speedmaster 16 is more in line with the 40

I'm heading down from LB, making a day of it, score some deals, support Rollo Kids and get out of the house.

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How many of you out there rent equipment for the big tuna, heavy flat fall, 100lb bait from tohe landing boat vs. spending the $600-$1000 for a big tuna set up? Weighing getting one of putting the money to other tackle and maybe a trip. I have a speed master 16 and a fathom 40 2sp so I’m good...

I asked that question on Let's talk hookup and the answer was it's not worth the extra bit of line unless you like a bigger reel

I love the fathom line and like stated earlier it's become the go to loaner for a lot of the SD boats. Get it and fish it, then rent a 100lb rig incase the big ones show.

Anyone fishing Seal Beach, if so walking the beach or fishing the jetty's?

What about for the local 25-75lbers and what rod would you match it with?

i usually hook it to my 50lb boxer mix and let her go

Also interested in this, which do most of you prefer, paddle or pedal? Seems a pedal yak would the most efficient between covering water and hands free?

haven't used it since, really don't want to find out on a tuna, was hoping someone else may have had the same issue and repair, looks to be common.

It's a smaller 2 speed that had about 300yds on it before the break off now thinking i want about 400yds and a shorter topshot.

Curious as to what you do if you loose a significant amount of your braid(non-hollow), say 100yds. Do you strip the spool and refill it, just increase the amount of mono topshot or tie on extra braid?

I noticed it within a couple of months of using it. I fished one on the Aztec on tuna trip and it had the same issue which they said was due to it being a boat reel and they hadn't serviced it that season.

Looks like it will become my shallow water bottom fishing rig

Lo

had the drag slipping issue, sent it in and was fixed. Would you guys still trust it?

Looking at the Penn board I'm seeing a lot of good sized tuna taken on the fathom 15 2 speed. Would the Metaloid 5ii be pretty much the equivalent?

Can you get by with a Fathom 40LD2 or a Speedmaster 16 or is it worth it to step up to the 20-25 size Speedmaster for the budget minded?

Don't go crazy buying gear, Get 4 or 5 quality outfits and use the rest of your income to fish them.

I use Trilene big game

Cabbage

If throwing iron go with mono a bit longer than you can cast. most of the skippers on the boats for the day to 2 day trips recommend a bit of mono say 30-50yds for tangles and as a shock absorber.

1 piece, standard salt conventionals

What does everyone use to protect their rods for airplane or boat travel?

I'm going to be in Avalon for a week and was wondering if there are spots other than the Moll and Green Pier that anyone has had success at and what did you use, swim baits, sick bait etc?

Looking for something for all around use that will keep you warm and dry

So, after much debate and looking at my budget. Went with a Fathom 40ld2 loaded with 400yds of 80lb and a Proteis XXHF 7’

Avet EX 4/02 and a Fathom 30ld2, pushing it but doable

I can catch up to 125 or with current gear

So it’s f-it and spend the money even though you are now $700+ in the hole instead of just renting?

I do between 1-3 day and a half to 3 day trips a year so San Clemente to 110 mi below SD. Is it worth it to invest $800+ in an international 16-20visx or get a fathom 40ld2 and rod plus stuff and just rent the big game gear when we do go out?

Looking for rod/reel combo for 60-80lb line to handle tuna say from 80-150 with about a $600 budget

Does anyone use the low gear? I’ve seen fish caught from Catalina to Cedros and haven’t seen or heard of it being a game changer.

Sounds like a 16visx is more versatile now what rod?

I do 1-3 day and a half to 2 day trips a year, may step up to the 3-5 day range. Is it worth it to invest in a big game setup like 30Visx and a rail rod or go a Fathom 40 2 speed or a 12-16 class international

Anyone have an idea what the boats or landings charge to rent the bigger 2speeds for the 2-3 day bluefin trips? Debating if it’s worth investing in a 100lb outfit or renting and putting the money towards something else

Would be from a sporty, size would be the local stuff so up to and a bit over 200lbs.

The local big boys between 1-3 day range so up to say 200lbs

what is the best bang for the buck, shimano, penn, Okuma, Avet. They all seem to work. Targeting the local bruisers, between Clemente and 2 day range so 200lbers. Price range is $350-$600 at the top end. Thinking braid 100/130 to either a shot top of mono or straight flouro.

If my rod is rated 15-30 mono and 40-80 braid can I fish a 40lb topshot of either mono or fluoro?

Spend the money on a torque 25N or get a 40fathom 2speed and a less 400? Have $600 to spend

For local Catalina to Coronado’s and up to 3 days, what are your must have or go to setups? Looking for upgrade over my Torium 20’s

Thanks guys, I’m going to get more “small” stuff now just need to figure if a Trini 30 is with the money

Thought about the upgrade, leaning to buying a fathom 40ld2 and maybe a forum 30 or a torque for the $$ if a tuna real

Debating if I should get a real to handle these, Penn/Shimano 20-30 2spd or add to my local arsenal. Would only fish the them from local PB in the Long Beach area or 2 day from SD. Currently have an Avet EX 4/02, Fathom 30ld2spd 2 Torium 20’s and a 300 & 400 Lexa. Have about $600 to spend

Captain Greg invited myself and my 11yr old son out trying to catch a fisherman. That is exactly what happened, my son is now hooked even though the sea sick bug bit him. He rallied and Capt Greg put him on his first tuna and coached him all the way through. I can not say enough as to how...

Was thinking either the Fathom 25LD or Torium HGA 20?

Looking for something for 1.5 to 3 day can fish 20 or up to 40lb bait or jigs

normal 20-50lb tuna and yellows, what’s the first rig you grab?

what rig do you grab first? Normal conditions not huge fish

Thanks for the response. Thinking iron or bait for outer islands, San Clemente or down the Baja. Leaning to Torium 30 but l like my Penn Fathom ld2 speed too

best one for 40lb yellows and tuna under $350

Was looking to step up to a 5 day and wanted to see if I need to add anything (I know you always need more gear). Currently: Lexa 400hd 25-40 jig/bait Torium 20hg 30-40 jig/bait Torium 30 older model 40lb jig Avet LX single speed 40lb bait Penn fathom 30 2spd 50lb bait/yoyo Avet 4/02 60-80lb bait

Does anyone have a preferred free spot to park to fish these beaches or do you just bite the bullet and pay for the beach lot?

Pet peeve, if you're using weight you're not fly lining

Inshore/islands so fishing anything from bass/WSB/yellows and local tuna. Probably is 15-20lb outfit

Looking for a smaller reel to handle inshore and local islands, Cat/SCI. Something that will catch the 3 B's but can also pull on WSB/Yellows and the occasional smaller 15-25lb tuna found here. Was thinking a Torium 16 but wondering if the new larger level winds Lexa 400/Abu Garcia etc would...

Had the same skunk on Saturday, the crew worked hard just wasn't to be but no goody bag when we hit the dock, think I'll try the NLA next time.

Going overnight tonight and was thinking of having this double as my jig stick for tossing iron instead of my star drag to cut down on the number of rods, probably throwing Colt Snipers and dropping flat falls.

Why, for the line capacity?

is the only difference line capacity due to the spoil size? Does the 25 cast better etc. looking to pick one up but can't decide on which

No, but my "accountant" can

Thanks for the reply's guys. I was looking at a Fathom 25nld2, wanting to keep it in the $270-$300 range.

Looking to add a real for 1-3 day trips and something for the current tuna bite. Currently have an older Torium 30(jig stick, Torium 20HGA(30-40 bait/backup iron, Avet LX single speed(40lb bait. Was thinking of adding or replacing just not sure which way to go.

Thanks, I currently have an Avet Lx single speed I use for 40lb bait, older Torium 30 for iron. Not sure if I'd be upgrading or duplicating. Mostly fish local islands to 1-1 1/2 day trips but looking to go longer

looking for a smaller 2 speed that can cast, fishing islands and SD day and day 1/2.

Thanks, unfortunately the rent a boats shut down for the season so it looks like the pier or Mole for me.

How did it go? Heading over there on Monday and will be bringing some gear.

Just picked this up from the Turner's closeout, was thinking 30lb bait rig and maybe push to 40 with 50-65 spectra?

For a sportboat would it be recommended to run 25-50yds of mono ontop of the spectra then your fluoro leader or just run the spectra to fluoro, thinking about tangles etc.

Actually Tracey is the man, founder and owner.

Hey, lots of reports but not much info on what line, hooks, bait and size of the fish. Would love a little info so I can make my tackle store productive before I get out there. Any help???

Thinking of jumping on for an upcoming trip, how does she fish and how's the crew, food etc

Need a good and reasonable shop in the Long Beach area and a ride on a 1.5 day!

Beta which bay are you fishing? I want to get my son out to pull on some stuff and that sounds perfect.