Things I'd love to see on TV

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  1. seriola_killer
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    This was inspired by a post about the Wicked Tuna show, and my subsequent response to said post about East Coast inferiority. Sorry, I'm a west coast homer so if I offend any right coasters, my apologies. But earlier today I was watching a show with those two ambiguously gay hosts who are "Captains" out of Florida who sit in that little bar and discuss fishing over coffee.

    Well, I've had my fill of these so-called experts on television and their endless supply of khaki shorts, flip flops, LL Bean shirts and visors, and also all their fishing with coffee grinders. Grab a fuckin' jigstick for Chrissakes, will ya?

    I'd love to see some of our hardcore west coast badasses go over to their turf and absolutely spank them heads up on television. Kinda like a world series of fishing. We go kill them over there, then they come over here.... and, well, we kill them again.

    Bruce Smith vs. (insert so-called expert name)

    J.J. Gerritsen vs. (insert next Captain to get embarrassed)

    Mike Lackey vs. (next captain to get cornholed on TV)

    You get the drift. More than anything this post is inspired because I am tired of seeing these douchers dominate TV fishing shows with their substandard brand of fishing while our guys get none of the props they deserve (other than from on Bloodydecks, of course). Ok, now I'll get off my soapbox.

    Sorry if this is posted in the wrong forum.
  2. TUNA MINER
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    I would watch all those shows. I think you have a great idea it is time the west coast fisherman get there chance.
  3. bsumoba
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    Reality east vs. west coast fishing reality show? Im all there.
  4. wxdunn
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    It all comes down to money. Someone once told me that 2/3 of all network TV viewers live East of the Mississippi River. On the West Coast we're the leftovers. As for the fishing shows...think of how many millions of anglers live 100 miles from the coast from Maine to Texas. Unfortunately it's a lot more than CA-OR-WA. The big advertisers love that pool of potential viewers..unlike the "niche" market they see in SoCal. At least guys like Bill Roecker (I hear he has a great announcer), Michael Fowlkes and Dan Hernandez are giving it a shot. They all put out some pretty good stuff and it's geared towards those who fish on the left coast!
    Now maybe if we can get the Discovery channel involved in some sort of confrontational program, we might have a shot.
  5. tresher_one
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    I would so watch that East vs west, Spinners vs Jig-stiks, Popers vs Jigs.. you get my drifft.
  6. tpeach
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    I have done both coast and landed some gaint bluefins over 700 both in the chair and stand up harnesses back before the strict regs were put into place. All mono and single speed 80s. With the hype given to west coast fishing I thought the learning curve would be great. 1st long range trip and first tuna bite I put my first west coast yellowfin tag onto a 261 lb sardine fish. So much for the learning curve. Second year 15 dayer I add a 305 super cow sardine fish to my bucket. Not to bad for a east coaster.......not all west coast tricks work on the east side and vice versa. Prime example is the lack of live bait dealers ...guys mostly chunk fishing but I have only caught them either trolling or slow trolling 3 to 5 pound bluefish live. If I could only have the supply of sardines that are available on the west coast oh my.....what I could do....wahoo fishing isn't the same here they are loaners not in packs.

    Not offended by any means enjoy the challenge, got to be careful what you ask for though.

    Now my thoughts on the show is these guys are commercial fishing not the way a sportfisherman would fight them. Their prime goal like all fisherman is to land their fish. It is their lively hood. I may be mistaken but I think they are fishing mono instead of spectra. I haven't seen a reel yet with spectra on the show. I believe the object of the show is to put a spotlight on the atlantic bluefin declines depicting the way that the US commercial fishing is allowed to fish for them. Not the way other countries do it. Just think what a tuna seiner could do to those giants....they used to....
  7. seriola_killer
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    Appreciate your response tpeach! No disrespect to east coast fishermen, just talking about the Douchers who host the shows. Tired of a 36' yellowfin with triple 300's fishing for 4 lb. Yellowtail snapper with chunked pilchards on coffee grinders spooled up with green ande tournament. Pisses me off to the ultimate!
  8. johndtuttle
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    You're just jealous you wish you were half as gay!

    :rofl:


    c'mon admit you're gay for that 36' yellowfin :)



    My take: It would make great TV for fisherman but you might be surprised who learns something LOL.

    1. It is a hell of a lot easier to land a quality fish on modern popping gear than a 9' jig stick.

    2. It's really expensive to fly any where with a 9' jig stick. Consequently, you ever wonder why all the 9' jig sticks are only sold within reasonable driving distance from Southern California?

    That's why they don't fish jig sticks any where else in the world. It's too much of a pain in the ass to take or ship them anywhere so people don't bother with the ultimate niche rod. Only in the insular world of near enough to San Diego do people use them. Every where else people come up with a more practical solution. Once I started traveling I got rid of my jig sticks. I don't miss them.

    (sorry for the rant)

    3. Live bait availability is a crutch. If West Coast guys were handed a throw net that would make for some seriously embarrassing TV. Those Florida dudes have it all figured out on where to make bait or when to have frozen blocks. The west coast guys would show up with sabiki rigs and have no idea where to start.

    4. The purpose of those shows is to get people stoked to go fishing with a "you can do it too" message. Fishing spinning gear is part of that. If you want to immediately turn people off then make a TV show all about how "conventional takes years of practice to be as cool as me." 90% of your audience just changed the channel.

    So lastly, don't make the mistake of underestimating those east coast dooshes. Making a TV show for the masses has little to do with what people actually know. Those shows are WAY dumbed down to play well in Peoria. Remember, these are the guys that taught West Coast how to kite fish and fish for giants.

    ps not taking anything away from our west coast greats, but really it's apples and oranges.
  9. Bill W
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    I was hoping Thad would chime in. I was there on his first trip and the ones after. Excellent hardcore fisherman.
    We have colder water with upwelling, better for bait and nutrients along the coast. So we have the bait schools. The East Coast has the Gulf Stream, and downwelling on the coast. Warmer water near the shore...

    Our game is played different here.
  10. conchydong
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    "Substandard brand of fishing"? I think you are full of shit and you show your ignorance. There are excellent Captains and Anglers all over America and the rest of the world. If Mexico did not allow you to bring in tons of live bait and fish in their nutrient rich waters, how well would you be doing?
    As others have said, its Apples and Oranges. Different fisheries require different techniques, tackle and mindset.
    You my friend are narrow minded and need to get out and fish other areas of the world and see for yourself.
  11. shellback
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    fished with some guys from south carolina on the intrepid a couple of years back. great guys and good fishermen.
    those shows are amusing, if nothing else. why not waste an hour of your life watching the latest happenings on the redfish tournament circut? or how about fishing in a toilet for tarpon?
    watching these assholes get all excited over catching a 60lb sailfish is pretty funny though.
    shellback
  12. tpeach
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    It was a little amusing to me to see the crew running around the boat at night with butterfly nets so to speak catching flying fish, I would just throw a 8' class.... 16' diameter cast net on them and cinch it as soon as it hit the water. I would catch alot more of them that they can't reach. The flying fish will jump into the net but if you let it sink it will swim out from under it. I asked the question why not and was told cast nets were illegal in mexican waters, oh well.

    My live bait situations are to chum with frozen minnows fish with the limited live bait supply. Our live bait takes a beaten getting to the offshore grounds to the point of being redfaced. Now inshore I will almost always fish live bait but that would be live shrimp also caught by cast net, and available year round. Our government regs are now so ridiculous now that I wouldn't be surprised they didn't put size and quantity limits on our bait fish, just a matter of time. During the closed shrimp season I can have a limit of live shrimp of 12 dozen per day and that is enough to fish a day...offshore most of our ground fish that we used for live bait offshore have limits and those were boney trash fish years ago. The Bluefish I use for Bluefin I am allowed 15 per day.
  13. spike
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    What's with the East Coast white boots?


    Bottom line, "everybody fucks different", I have not seen the show, but in my mind West Coast trumps East Coast when it comes to fishing, but there is no right answer.
  14. Tues
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    So Florida fishing tops SoCal?
  15. screamingreel
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    Different coasts, different fish, different water, different gear and different approaches.

    I think we can all learn something from each other if we keep an open mind. There is an abundance of fishing knowledge and talent on all our coasts. I've enjoyed fishing all over this great country and others. BTW, doesn't Florida have both an east and west coast?

    As long as we can keep fishing, it is all good!

    - Jeff
  16. seriola_killer
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    Hey Asshat, talking about the fishing shows and the douches who host them. And your Mexico comment is baseless. All those resources in Florida the these show hosts go out and fish like 6 year olds at Lake Cuyamaca. That's my point. Maybe you should not be so butthurt because I dared to comment on the great East Coast TV show hosts.

    And I've fished all over the world (but not while wearing LL Bean, Ducks Unlimited, Eddie Bauer, a visor, or any other douchebag apparel).
  17. Ol Pedro
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    Having fished both Coasts I would love to see an East Vs West contest . Everyone thinks that fishing shows are the way things really are . The Real Fishermen are too buisy fishing to make shows . Why does Dennis Braid play test his tackle out here ? Some of my friends from out here have gone Longrange Fishing and there wasn't much of a learning curve . Do you remember the East vs West Mako tourney that was on a while back ? the Easties won . The Giant fishermen were using knotless connections long before it became popular on Longrange Boats . I use West Coast tackle all the time . Salas jigs catch most of what swims out here . Floating out a chunk takes as much talent as throwing a live Dine . I wish that we had more live bait but we catch plenty without it . The East Coasters that I fish with are more progressive than a lot of you think . I use a 7' and an 8' jig stick . On any given trip look in the rod racks on our Party boat and you will see plenty of Avets , Accurates , Pro gear , and Penns . I had an easy time adjusting to East Coast fishing Where else in the United States can you travel 70 miles and catch Yellowfin and Bluefin with 80 lb on Chunks ?
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  18. Fishybuzz
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    ROTFLMAO ........Man I hope the season starts soon......you guys need some time out on the water and stop looking at grade C fishing porn .....I have been fortunate and have fished in many locations and learned a lot from the local pros and I think any one of the "pros" can adapt to the techniques and catch fish.

    but I have to agree most of the fishing hosts are really lame....the worst is Mark sosin he would in my opinion be "that guy" on every trip....and unfortunately we just lost the best, Jose Wejebe....the way we fish on the West Coast is unique because of the huge live bait capacity of the boats....there are some very skilled East Coast fishermen as there are some very skilled West Coast folks......but a show where the West Coast guys go fish on the East Coast using West Coast methods and gear and the East Coast folks fishing on the West Coast using East Coast gear and techniques.....that would be interesting...but use REAL fishermen not the asshat TV buffoons....some West Coast guys like...Spike, Juilo, Bruce Smith, Jesus,Wahoodad and Mike Lackey.....just to name a few.....that would be fun to watch.....

    you mean to tell me they don't have 9 foot sticks on the East Coast??? surely you have surf casting blanks?? Lol
  19. rdrrm8e
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    You would never be able to find enough dipshits on the West Coast to subject themselves to enough of the contrived drama to make one of those bullshit shows.

    Saw one......tried to watch a second one and gave up. Men acting like little girls for a camera.
  20. Ol Pedro
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    fishybuzz ,there are a few around . We have an old 9' Harnell Cod jig stick on the boat that we use to jig big Yellowfin with 80 lb. The ultimate rail rod .