Mexican Navy Boards then Sinks Boat off San Quintin (PICS)

Discussion in 'Baja Mexico Fishing Reports and Discussion' started by Its 4 Reel, Sep 14, 2007.

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  1. Its 4 Reel
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    Let me start by stating that I am a long time traveler to Baja. I’ve driven and towed my boats from Ensenada to Loreto and all points in between for more than 30 years. I’ve been reading all the posts about the recent carjackings and robberies lately and I believe as long as you don’t drive at night you are as safe traveling in Baja as anywhere else in the world. But then I hear first hand of an incident that occurred to a friend of mine while fishing just off San Quintin this past Tuesday. He is a veteran of Baja and set up a charter with Tito’s Pangas to fish on one of his cabin cruisers. The price included the fishing license and equipment for the rest of his buddies. On Tuesday Sept 11th my buddy and 3 of the 5 people were fishing off San Quintin and fishing was slow and while they were out doing some bottom fishing they noticed a Mexican Naval ship in the distance. They didn’t think much of it and continued to fish. Out of nowhere and to everyone’s surprise a small boat is fast approaching with naval guys in ski masks with machine guns drawn. They are boarded and asked to produce the proper documents, all this while at gunpoint. The Mexican captain from Tito’s produces the fishing licenses and boat permit. My buddy and his friends are then asked to produce their passports. They didn’t have their passports on them and the naval guys accused them of being in the country illegally. In addition to that they claimed that the fishing licenses were invalid due to a certain stamp missing. According to my buddy, who speaks Spanish, the licenses were stamped and had their names on them. Here’s where it really get’s scary. The navy orders the captain of the sportfisher (SF) to follow them to the bigger naval boat where they are told to board. The captain of the SF calls into the owner of Tito’s and informed them what was happening. Luckily there were 2 friends of my buddies that had decided not to fish that day and they were asked to get the passports. The owner of Tito’s shows up to the naval boat with the only 2 passports that were available. The Naval Captain (if you could call him that) decides not to let anyone go because 2 of the guys didn’t have passports. They were now being detained for not having the proper fishing license and for passport violations and that they now have to go to Ensenada and appear in court! Unfrickenbelievable! They were told that they would be in Ensenada by 8AM the next morning. They try and tie the SF to the big boat according to my buddy and they are having a hard time doing this. They get underway and it is obvious that the boat is going to sink. They ask they Navy Captain to allow them to remove their gear which includes, fishing equipment, ice chests, clothes & fish and were told no. About 3AM the boat is taking on water. A couple of naval personnel jump in the SF and proceed to bail the water out and try to re-rig the tow rope. Around 8AM they are still offshore and the SF is starting to go down. Long story short (too late I know) the SF starts to sink and all the gear is lost. One of the guys had a small digital camera that he kept hidden. Here is picture of the bow just before it went down:
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    They finally make it into the Naval base in Ensenada around 6PM. Prior to being released, and at gunpoint, they were ordered to take a physical and to sign some document, in Spanish, admitting that they knew they were fishing without a license. They were refusing to sign and asked for an interpreter. The interpreter stated that the document was an admission of guilt. My buddy signed it and they were let go. No court. No fine. Nothing. This whole excercise served only to scare innocent people and cost someone his livelyhood by sinking his boat. The name of the ship is the “Matamonos”. This ship was formerly the USS Sage and was given/sold to the Mexican Navy. Also, in the galley, there was a picture of Collin Powell handing the ship over to Mexican Navy. A couple more pics:
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    Has anyone else heard of this incident or had a similar run in with the Mexican Navy? <o:p></o:p>
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    P.S. Not sure why you need them when entering by land but you may want to consider to start carrying your passports at all times while in Mexico.<o:p></o:p>
  2. hatidua
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    No shortage of incidents reported lately....yikes!
  3. roosterfisher
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    This is crazy. It turned my stomach hearing this. Is this a legit story? If so WHAT CAN BE DONE! We need to stop funding this sh@t. Corrupt corrupt corrupt. Pisses me off and here we are fighting a war in Iraq it should be with our neighbors if this is true. Oh thanks Collin Powell.
  4. FishWiz
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    No comment
  5. Stanley
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    Yeah, but there are 50 robberies a day in LA!
  6. jsl
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    My goodness!! I fish S.Q once a month and this type of news is certainly distrurbing to say the least. From my experience, the people down there are some of the warmest and nicest people I'v had the pleasure of meeting. However, as of late, it seems that there are some who are hell bent on keeping gringos out of their country. What the hell is going on down there??

    Scott
  7. The OG Hooookup
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    Unfuckingbelievable!!! Im glad you're buddies are ok mate!!!
  8. zigzag
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    I wish i had answers for this but no one deserves this kind of treatment.i carry photo copy of my pass port in my wallet as well as a photo copy of current fishen license.it wouldnt have matter one way or the other.I would have not signed the paper how ever intimadation with guns and jail time is a real reason to sign. The port capitan should have been called and insist.phone call American Embassy.There is way more to this story i have been boarded 6 or more times by the navy and they dont give a shit about fishen liscenses they have no juristiction on this issue but they got big guns.i just think there has to be more to this than you have been told.i suspect the boat was the real issue and you guys got caught in the middle.The Navy capitan got side ways with you guys and needed to get bailed out He screwed up and had to cover.Thats what im thinking maybe not.the whole thing stinks .wadda ya do ???
  9. http404
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    wow
  10. Bajabil3
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    Note
    Please contact me whenever these problems occure a.s.a.p.
    The Gringo Gazette North, will investigate these violations, and driect them to the appropiate authorities. We will get a response and publish the results.
    We will report and follow up on these stories.
    Please send me all of the details (everything, time of day, license numbers, description of vehicles/individuals. color and type of clothes, anything helps).
    We at the paper will follow up and get back to you with the results of our investigations.
    Note: The Baja Times (the other paper here in Baja) is owned by Hugo Torres and they won't report or investigate anything negative about the Rosarito/Baja area. He is the new Mayor of Rosarito and owns the Rosarito Hotel and several other high rise ocean front developments. Their only intrest is to sucker Gringos into buying into their questionable developments. They only want gringos to think everything is rosey here in Baja, and that isn't necessarly so.
    Bill Norton
    Gringo Gazette North
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