I got a chance to handle these reels today and I was quite suprised about how the new saltiga 2speed ld's felt. There is just something missing from what daiwa had going. The previous models are tanks. So I played with the 20 version and bumped that out of the picture. So I narrowed it down to the 2 shimanos well 3 of them. Talica 8 II trini 14a trini 16a. I know the 16 is a little more line capacity couldn't hurt. I picked them both up and liked them both. I an leaning towards the trinis cause the spool on the talica is much heavier or it feels much heavier than the trini spool. I do have a talica 10 but fish that for 30-40 depending on the application so I am looking for a 20-30 reel. But. That 2nd speed option is just killer in those certain situations. I like the 16a cause I could also throw jigs with it. But the 14 does feel perfect. Any input would help I would be fishing 50-65# spectra filled to the brim, being able to go from 20 25 or 30 top shot. Rod used would be phenix 908mh.