Attention if your going out tomorrow......

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  1. ?? fisherman

    ?? fisherman super Captain

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    I have just been informed on the phone right now that there is no bait avail at mission bay or SD bay bait receivers. SD bay has three receivers that are saved for a private charter. There is a possibility that they will get some more bait in at 11:00pm.

    The unknown fisherman:p:
     
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    the hook Bluesman

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    I predict a run on Sabikis at the local bait shops.

    hj
     
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    Any news from today?

    Might have to pull an allnighter to make bait for tommorrow :(
     
  4. Afry

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    Hmmmm lets see...no bait for the recievers and lots of tuna pens gettting TONS of bait...coincidence?
     
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    E-bros makes a ton of money off selling bait to the public and the sportfishing fleet. They are freaking out right now. Lack of bait, very warm water = crap bait and unhappy fishing industry.

    I am about 99% positive they feed them DEAD sardines. If they were live they would swim out of the nets right?

    Plus tuna in the pens are based on a high fat content. Fish that have to chase down their food build more muscle and burn fat, so dead bait is the way to go.
     
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    hotrodtuna I'm a people person

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    Either way it sucks reading this and all the other posts about bait rolling......this alone will shut things up tight at the bros, because people will just drive by and throw the $$ it in the fuel tank and hope for the rigs to pop or irons to work. JMO~
     
  7. Afry

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    Exactly - lack of bait - why?

    Warm water? It was warmer last year.

    Dead sardines? It makes sense to feed them dead bait. Although I never caught a Bluefin on a dead sardine. Of course I never fished in a pen either.

    They had to be live from somewhere, if they shipped them in from some other area I'd say ok, but I doubt they did. I'd be surprised if they didn't catch them locally and let them die and feed the pens.

    Not trying to start a conspiracy theory here but I do wonder where all that tuna food is coming from. When you take thousands of tons of tuna that feed in the open ocean and confine them and feed them bait taken from a comparatively small area what is the effect on local fisheries?

    I do not hug trees but is/will the tuna pen industry hurting the local fisheries?
     
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    tap "The Roving Angler" BD Writer

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    The bait moves around more than you may think. During late summer/fall the sardines and anchovies often move offshore and go deep which makes them harder to net. The EB bait boat was off the Silver Strand Saturday but the bait was mostly fast-moving pinhead anchovies and they kept moving and looking for the right kind. Netting bait can be tough. As to what effect other operations (e.g. bluefin pens, etc.) have on the availability of bait-who knows? I DO know that this is not new. EB has run out of bait or has had only pinhead anchovies many times in previous years (especially in the fall) when we would stick three on a hook.

    Tony Pena
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  9. Mo Betta

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    Hmmm maybe the sardine cycle is over. Do we need to practice casting Chovies again?
     
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    I myself like fishing chovies:D:D:D
    they are a real pain in the ass to pitch though:D:D
     
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    Guys, the bait is poor probably due to the warm water we are experiencing and the speed in which the bait is being used. No time to settle down before it goes in our bait tanks. . As for E-Bros. supplying the pens. My understanding is the pens use their own fleet for wrapping sardines and feeding the tuna.

    My 2 cents

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    Every time I have gone on the moo moo's this year the skippers are complaining that the fish aren't biting because there is to much bait in the water and the fish are not hungry. I have seen all the bait swimming under the lights at night, more than I have seen in years past.
     
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    I talked to the boys @ e b in sd bay 2 hrs ago and they said they have deans for us.
     
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    BAIT??????????

    I don't need no stinkin bait :)
     
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    Anyone else read about the mackerel boats down in Ensenada catching the mackerel and grinding them up to make pellets to feed the bluefin? I thought I read that somewhere on BDs
     
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    Is the bait the same for both Mission Bay and SD Bay? Anyone had luck finding smaller Macks lately?
     
  17. fishincrazy

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    Last weekend I caught some really great small macks on the 9 North using sabiki rigs... we were shark fishing and had the chum bag out...the macks were attacking the chum bag. We had at least 40 + macks in an hour that were just a little bigger then Dines... we searched on the way home for a nice patty but could not find one and had no time to fish the kelp.
     
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    There's no bait conspiracy going on guys. The water in Mission Bay has been as high as 78F. Guess what happens to dines and chovies cooped up in a box at 78F. They roll. Almost the same surface temps in SD bay. There's plenty of bait offshore, it's just hanging out below the surface layer where the air conditioning is still running....

    All these high water temps we're seeing are only on the surface. I'm not sure what the temp profile looks like but I bet the warm water is only 20-60ft deep, maybe even less. I don't know I haven't dropped an XBT in a few years...
     

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