I'm 26 and 2 years ago I got a 18 foot Force with a 2 foot extension. I've been on other boats, but this is the first one I own. About a year ago, I had some trouble with one of the stingers separating from the inside of the hull. The boat is a 1991 made in Hilo, Hawaii. I didn't know much about fiberglass at the time, so I decided to hire someone to fix it / teach me to fix it. Being on an island, there aren't too many options for repair guys. I called a guy in the phone book and he came out and looked at my boat. He was in his 70's and told me about how for the last 40 years, he had been making surf boats and doing boat building in California and Hawaii. For the last year, I've been working on the boat with him. I've learned a ton about fiberglass. We had to cut the deck out, repair the stinger, reinforce the hull from the inside and outside, sand and fair the outside, replace the deck, fair and gelcoat everything.... Since we were doing so much work to the boat I decided to go ahead and "restore" the whole boat with a paint job. We also built a custom cabin, re-gelcoated and splattered the deck. I got a lot of new stainless hardware, did the windows, insulated the fish box, all new electronics, wiring, lights, rub rail, batteries, kicker motor, and MUCH more. Now, it's a nice little boat that you actually stay DRY in out here. It was finished about a month ago, more or less. Still doing some final touches... BEFORE: ------------------------------------- AFTER Doing this, I realized how much I enjoy working on boats (especially after seeing the final product). So, I have been keeping my eyes open for a bigger project for a while now. A 20 foot boat is nice, but for the extended trips I'd like to do, bigger would be better. About 6 weeks ago, ago there was an ad on Craigslist for a 28 foot boat that needed a new transom. It was the same brand that I already had, only 28 feet long instead of 20. It also is a 2001 instead of a 1991 and is large enough for a flybridge. In fact, it used to have one. It seemed really cheap since blank hulls for this boat usually go for $43K new. The guy only wanted $10K... I called the seller and he told me that the boat was used as a fishing charter. They were returning back to the Kapaa ramp one day with a few people on board and out of nowhere, there was a rogue wave that came up the stern, causing them to broach and capsize. It happened right outside the breakers and luckily everyone made it to shore ok. Now, it's kind of a mystery that this thing capsized because this kind of boat is notorious around here for being able to handle rough water. Even the coast guard was stumped about how this happened in 4 to 5 footers. They said it would have been hard to capsize the boat if you were TRYING TO, given the conditions. I'm thinking all that weight of crew on one side, fish, and ice, gear, maybe too much speed downswell, and a couple guys up on the flybridge may have all contributed to the capsize. I'm also curious as to whether there was water inside the hull, weighing it down. After inspecting the bottom of the boat, I noticed it did have a LOT of thru hull fittings in there... More than I would think are usual. No way to tell but we all know these are good boats. I guess just a freak accident Eventually, the wind blew the capsized boat into the reef. The bow was sticking staight in the air and the top of the transom bounced on the reef for about 8 hours. (see video) http://www.hawaiistream.com/video/900 Eventually, the tide rose and they were able to drag it up on the beach with a jet ski and load it on a trailer with a front end loader. Really, the only badly damaged things were the transom and the cabin. Of course, all the electronics, wiring, steering, will need to be replaced. Being a little crazy and understanding that one of the most amazing things about fiberglass is it's repairability, I decided to buy the boat and aluminum trailer and try to fix it. I got them both for $6800. I also have to pay $1500 to have it shipped to me, so I'm in it a total of $8300. The trailer will need new axles eventually, but I figure the trailer alone was probably close to that $8300 when now, so I figured its a pretty good deal. The boat was originally setup for twin diesels, but I think we'll be converting the transom into a bracket to hold outboards. This is for cost reasons. A battery box will also need to be constructed just forward of the transom. The great thing about these boats is that they are solid fiberglass, except for the transom and some other small stuff. The manufacturer has a mold for the cab and another mold for the flybridge, so I can just buy those and won't have to build them myself. Those will just pop on. I will have to add windows though. I figure... $8300 for boat + trailer $5000 for transom repair $4000 for electronics $1800 for cab $800 for windows $2200 for flybridge $1000 for flybridge ladder $2000 for new helm + hoses + outboard cylinder $25000 for new outboards That gives me a total of about $50k. Now, half of that is two brand new Yamaha 150's. I would like to use Yamaha 200's, but damn they are expensive. I am considering used/rebuilt outboards. It looks like I can get a pair of rebuilt Mercury 2-stroke 200's for $17K. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-MERCURY-200-HP-OPTIMAX-PAIR-OUTBOARD-ENGINES-2-STROKE-LOW-HOURS-159-158-/310376440589?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&vxp=mtr&hash=item4843e0a30d But, I really don't want 2-strokes. That'd knock $8K off the total and put me at $43K. With new outboards the total would be about $50K. Brand new, a blank hull would $43K. With new outboards and an aluminum trailer, I'd think this boat would go for about $75K. hawaii boats - all classifieds "force" - craigslist Good deal or not, I'm already committed to this. The boat arrives today. I'll try to post pictures of progress here and there. I'll get better pictures when the boat arrives, but here's what I have for now. If I were to do this with a brand new hull, it would be at least $87,800... $8000 trailer $43000 blank hull (new) $4000 for electronics $1800 for cab $800 for windows $2200 for flybridge $1000 for flybridge ladder $2000 for new helm + hoses + outboard cylinder $25000 for new outboards ---- $87,800 .... that's not counting all the other stuff like fuel tanks, steering wheel, pole holder, hardware, bow rail, etc. Not sure how much it will end up costing in the long run but I'm hoping this is a chance for me to get something that I always considered unattainable. What do you guys think? Mahalo for any comments. What do you think.