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May-31-2012, 06:43 AM #1Captain
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Automatic External Defibrilators (AED's)
What is the boat's obligation to OUR safety? Of course there are safety seminars (mandated by the Coast Guard) given on all trips. SOME (not all) boatshave AED's. I can tell you that they absolutely do make a difference.
The reality is that without shocking a heart, CPR is most likely NOT going to bring back a victim in cardiac arrest. The heart is a muscle that is electrically charged. When the heart stops beating it usually goes into a lethal rhythm called Ventricular Fibrillation. The ONLY way to break this rhythm is to deliver anelectrical shock. Without a shock the heart will not return to its normal rhythm.
You have seen your eyelid quiver. The heart is a muscle and does the samething. This is called Ventricular Fibrillation (V-Fib). The only way to get theheart to stop quivering is to put one patch on the right upper part of thechest and another one on the left lower part of the rib cage and deliver ashock of electrical current. This shock "resets" the heart whichhopefully causes the heart to stop beating altogether. Ideally the hearts ownability to start beating on its own takes over and the patient survives. Without a shock, the heart will not.
So, AED's have become commonplace. They are hanging on the wall like fire extinguishers in the airport. Thousands of businesses have them on site fortheir employee's safety. Crews are required by the Coast Guard to have CPR andFirst Aid training. Several of the boat owners have elected to put AED's on theboat (Excel, Red Rooster, Qualifier 105).
Face it, we as long range fishermen are getting older. Younger anglers arehaving trouble affording both the cost of the trip and many cannot get the timeoff from work.
In your opinion, should AED's be required?
May-31-2012, 06:49 AM #2Skipper
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Absolutely yes. It should be mandatory.
May-31-2012, 07:02 AM #3Captain
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My fishing club brings an AED along on every trip and makes sure someone on the charter is trained to use it. With that said, we should also recognize that an added requirement will increase the cost to the boat owner and either cut their profit margin or increase the cost to the paying customer. Therein lies the conundrum.
May-31-2012, 08:22 AM #4
Aed's can be purchased for 1-2 grand. IMO a small price to save lives.
May-31-2012, 08:25 AM #5
It's the cost of ONE Acc ATD.
If the boat wanted to put a $5 surcharge on every trip until it's paid for I'd send them a note thanking them!Catch and release
May-31-2012, 08:27 AM #6
I have my own, and it sits right on top of the first aid kit in the truck so it goes everywhere with me. I do alot of competitive shooting, and there are alot of old geezers I shoot with that I'd rather not have to go to their funeral, so I'm prepared. The cost of AED's has come way down from where they used to be. No excuse anymore for a business not having one...
May-31-2012, 08:35 AM #7
Having survived my 4th heart attack a couple of months ago I am all for boats having AED's and that will be a factor in what boat I fish in the future."Jimal"
" Hook em and Cook em...........Death from Above."
May-31-2012, 08:44 AM #8
Same deal with me. I have my own and I bring it to some of the shooting events our club puts on. I"m certified by the American Red Cross for Adult CPR/AED. The problem is I'm an old geezer myself and I hope someone would know how to use my AED on me. Incidentally, I was on a 3 day Albacore trip on the Q105 a few years ago and on the second day we had a guy collapse on kelp patty stop. Well the crew started CPR and Capt. Joe broke out the AED. After 45 minutes of working on the poor man, Capt. Joe said that the Coast Gaurd had given him permission to make the decision to cease first aid and we high tailed back to SD (12 hours) to meet the coroner and police. Boy, that was a weird experience.
May-31-2012, 11:59 AM #9Captain
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- Bartlett, TN
I don't know if the boats have them or not, but everywhere I travel, I carry aspirin both for me and anyone that should have an attack. Heart disease is rampant in my family and I've told everyone in my family and at work where mine are should I suddenly pass out. So far, I've been fortunate in that my heart is healthy (I had a heart cath 2 years ago), but it can and does happen suddenly.
May-31-2012, 12:06 PM #10
They're not that expensive anymore. You can get a decent AED for under $1,500 and a re-furbished for under $1K.
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