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Apr-06-2009, 06:42 PM #1
Bass Contest Controversy
I must withdraw my photo for the March Photo Contest. I apologize but I had forgot the artificials only rule, my bad. That 11.5# was caught on a live crawdad smothered in UniButter. Actually, I had never read the rules page, just picked up bits and pieces from the previous months contest, maybe that's why my pic is a textbook "how not to photograph a fish".
Again, my bad and thanks Steve BiggestT for calling me out. Steve you're a true gentleman for keeping the field honest.
I'm going tommorrow and I'm throwing a DD22 into the kelp until my arms fall off to make amends.
Congrats to the new first place winner !!!
Go easy on me boys.....not too many of these please......
Apr-06-2009, 07:51 PM #2
dude no way........... bummer . hope im second place. nice fish tho. ive never had luck on live crawdads how do you rig it.
Apr-06-2009, 08:19 PM #3
Let me say here that for the record I have fished with Dave "Crawdadguy" Clay for over 30 years now. Many of our fishing firsts have been accomplished fishing together and those good events keep happening to this day. I mean we rode out a direct hit from Hurricane Kiko in a trailer at the East Cape and he had to listen as I had sex all night with my future wife in the upper loft as the winds howled at 110 mph. Both of us are honest to a "T" and have nothing to hide, nor would we ever consider cheating to win money or a fishing rod or whatever. It's just not worth risking our name or reputation.
Now Joe, I haven't fished with you yet and realize that circumstances keep intervening to prevent that, but it will happen. Actually, we haven't yet met in person. I do know that you've fished with Dave a number of times now and that would not happen if you weren't made of good stock. So like I said, not surprised by the result here. You've done good.
P.S. Dave "Crawdadguy" Clay has had a banner year at Perris, all on crawdads. He was limited to fishing weekends and I was up working on our place in Big Bear on weekends, figuring that the crowds would make the fishing more difficult. From February through the last weekend of March, he C&R'd 4 bass over 10 lbs including that 11-4 here, plus another 4 bass over 9 lbs and those included a 9-13 and a 9-14. Capt. G commented "know he's not bullshitting on the weights, because no one reports a 9-14, they just round it up to 10." Well that's just our standard.
P.S.S. That last weekend of March Dave had his son Casey out fishing with him (I believe he's about 12 now). Casey hooked a big fish, but due to his inexperience did not move fast enough to the bow where the fish got wrapped in the anchor line. Dave got a good look at the fish before it broke off and estimated it at 9 to 10 lbs. About 3 hours later Dave hooks a good fish in the same spot and lo and behold its got his hook in the lip and about 6" of line from his son's reel. Yep, Dave caught Casey's fish and it went 9-1.
P.S.S.S. We fished Perris this year, well Dave did, as if it would be our last. First was the news that they would be drawing it down further which could render the launch ramp unusable. They just did not know by which timeframe. Then there was the pending rollout of Quagga Mussel inspections which carried the risk that would include a ban on the use of live crawdads. So we fished as if it would be our last, Dave moreso than I. We thought our results would suck as most of our best spots were out of the water. But the lower water forced us to find more spots and we did. Dave had his best year by far. I never did get any more DD fish after that 12 lb fish on 12/30/08. Lots of 5s to 7s for me. I know Dave did a couple of his DDs with me and I'm always happy to net them for him. So our beloved crawdad fishing at Perris appears to be no more and we believed that lake offered our best chance at a 15+ lb fish. We will have to revisit the drawing board on that.
Last edited by BiggestT; Apr-06-2009 at 08:42 PM.
Apr-06-2009, 08:47 PM #4
Good job for stepping up.
Apr-06-2009, 09:05 PM #5
That's too bad,go get one on the plastic now Joe!
Apr-06-2009, 09:20 PM #6
wow... maybe I have a chance to win now. haha But way to step up Joe and admit you made a mistake! It happens!Josh Koch on the
Apr-06-2009, 09:25 PM #7
In a debate over semantics you're right, but your bringing this to attention was the right thing to do Steve. After reading the rules, and as a plastics guy, winning with a bait fish would take away everything that IS "fishing artificials". And I say that without taking anything away from the craft of fishing the crawdad. As you know, crawdad fishing is a total mind game if one is properly "stitching". It's not for the lazy or impatient, again as you well know.
Dave and I talked about my "gaff" and before he could finish his thought, I told him I needed to withdraw my pic, that it would bring bad karma. I flashed on me hooked to the winning WSB in the upcoming WON torney and watching it bust off at boatside !!!!
The only thing that's real on fishing web-sites is one's credibility, there are no checks and balances, it's ALL self-regulated. I post on BD because this site and it's members are some of the best that So Cal has to offer, hands down.....the best. Yeah there's alot of BSin' going on but after a couple years on this site you know who's real and who's not. These guys aren't afraid to call it like it is, I like that. It's a pleasure associating myself with some of the best in the business. I think this is a good place to diverge from my self-imposed discussion on credibility and I will just let my fishing do the talking. There was no malice or ill-intent, just a guy who glanced at a web-site at 4:00 AM and that same guy was netting an 11.5# that same afternoon. I got caught up in the moment, told Dave to "pin her down while I take a photo, oh...and stick that tape measure under her", I didn't even have the right sign for the month !!!! Dave didn't know anything about the photo contest, but he does now.
Again, my bad, and again, thanks for brining this to my attention Steve, you kept the playing field level for everyone. You most certainly did the right thing.
And I am going tommorrow, with the intent on winning this contest outright. Me and my Norton and my SHAKA !!!!
Apr-07-2009, 12:22 AM #8
ok so who gets the goodies?
Apr-07-2009, 06:32 AM #9
I think I will send you a custom Rago Generic Trout just for being a stand up guy.
Apr-07-2009, 09:26 AM #10
Man, you are an honest dude, that is GOLD nowadays.
Bummer about the withdrawal but rules is rules mang.
You will be rewarded by the fish gods for your honesty.
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