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    Quote Originally Posted by Garabaldi View Post
    This works both ways, your stock broker or business partner may have sent you an email saying sell now before the bottom drops out or act now before we lose a deal and you didn't get the message cuz you were fishing... 30 second read with a 30 second response could have saved or made you a bunch of money.

    We live in a fast paced world where transactions are excuted with the push of a button these days (like it or not), and some of us have competitors who are just waiting for us to screw up or miss an opportunity, and sometimes we do, and sometimes they do too... in this economy, it's dog eat dog for many so I have no problem taking 10 to 15 minutes out of my vacation day to keep an eye on what I have worked so hard to build while maintaining a service level that my clients have come to trust and value. Like I said in my previous post, an internet connection using my own laptop in my bunkroom would suit me just fine, can do my thing, put my mind at ease for the day, handle any critical matters if need be and not bother anyone else while doing so. My time, my choice, but at least having the option to communicate as I see fit... having options is always a good thing in my mind.

    Besides most LR anglers should know by now it's always the guy who comes out on deck from his afternoon nap from down below that grabs a bait, throws in and instantly gets bit on a fresh one while you have been standing at the rail for hours with the sun beating down on you, missing your lunch and just barely staying awake while leaning against the rail. It's just fishing... so forget your fish tally and just kick back and relax or go check your email for a few minutes each day or even re-read that post on bait presentation and the different ways to hook your sardine or that new knot diagram that you forgot to print and bring with you, it actually might do you some good to go on line for a few minutes each day!

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    I hear ya, but I also think it's pretty sad.

    It's amazing that many of us ever made it to adulthood..... I mean lets face it, we rode our bikes without helmets, rode in the back of dads pick-up as kids, played outside and used our own imagination instead of sitting in a house playing video games and texting, and on and on and on.

    Now as adults many of us cant even get by for a brief minute without needing a cell phone or internet or some other modern day devise.

    I'd hate to see how some of you guys would camp..... then again most of you probably dont as you'd be too stressed the whole time, that or your brining all your little electronic gizmos with ya...... yeah that's camping

    It's amazing that we somehow got by years ago without this stuff..... and yet somehow I think we actually were better off in many ways.

    The unknown fisherman

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    Quote Originally Posted by ?? fisherman View Post
    I hear ya, but I also think it's pretty sad.

    It's amazing that many of us ever made it to adulthood..... I mean lets face it, we rode our bikes without helmets, rode in the back of dads pick-up as kids, played outside and used our own imagination instead of sitting in a house playing video games and texting, and on and on and on.

    Now as adults many of us cant even get by for a brief minute without needing a cell phone or internet or some other modern day devise.

    I'd hate to see how some of you guys would camp..... then again most of you probably dont as you'd be too stressed the whole time, that or your brining all your little electronic gizmos with ya...... yeah that's camping

    It's amazing that we somehow got by years ago without this stuff..... and yet somehow I think we actually were better off in many ways.

    The unknown fisherman

    If you don't believe the internet and email has changed the way we do business in today's world then I hope you are close to retirement age cuz if not you will be headed there soon. Many businesses have either changed the way they do business in the modern world or they simply go out of business.

    FYI: I hate video games and have never played one for more than a minute or two before I get bored. Love to camp and hike in the back country when I have the time and always take my modern day GPS just in case we get too far off trail.

    Just remember technology breeds new technology so we have only scratched the surface, as Ross Perot once said... our future will be based on how well we make computer chips rather than potato chips.

    Rocky Mountain high to ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garabaldi View Post
    If you don't believe the internet and email has changed the way we do business in today's world then I hope you are close to retirement age cuz if not you will be headed there soon. Many businesses have either changed the way they do business in the modern world or they simply go out of business.

    FYI: I hate video games and have never played one for more than a minute or two before I get bored. Love to camp and hike in the back country when I have the time and always take my modern day GPS just in case we get too far off trail.

    Just remember technology breeds new technology so we have only scratched the surface, as Ross Perot once said... our future will be based on how well we make computer chips rather than potato chips.

    Tight lines!
    Yep...

    You ned to embrace technology and not compare the "old" ways versus today's ways. REmember your only source of sustainable competitive advantage is your capacity to mobilize your people to implement your strategy faster and more effectively than your competition...

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    I work for a small real estate development firm and it's the reason I'm able to take the one trip a year. I'm the CFO there and there isn't anyone to pick up my work load while I'm gone. If Internet is indeed available, I would take advantage of it only at night. I did this same thing on a cruise recently and it made the transition back to work easier. I was able to deal with issues as they happened and some problems were avoided. It's also a way of staying in touch with my family. My two sons will be competing in an Ironman event and I would like to know if they finished and healthy. I know I could call but the Internet would be simpler

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    While I totally understand the liberating aspect of disconecting, times have changed.

    I beleive more people would choose an operation for having access than not choosing because they do. Having reliable service would allow more and more people the freedom to take trips. Because of this, I see all long range boats eventually offering service.

    Though systems have vastly improved (and will keep doing so) they are not bullet proof. I would think twice about taking a long trip if your buisiness is CRITICALY dependent upon uninturupted service until proven otherwise.

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    I say its a good thing and a distraction
    IMO when I go on these trips its for a vacation, to get away from work, people, and the daily grind.
    all I want to do is fish, eat, fish, and talk shit.

    soon people will start to bring their work with them and not fish but hey less peeps on the rail good for me

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    I go on these trips to spend time with old friends, meet new friends and revisit family on board. I leave the business at the docks and turn off anything remotely related to work. This gives me time to recharge my batteries and about half way through the trip I start realizing what I miss about not going through the grinds of daily life.

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    As the original poster and others have noted, wanting to get away from it all does not easily translate into being able to get away from it all. For some it means no long range trips, for others it is only one a year or none over five days. This isn't about checking Facebook or playing games, but people whose livelihood depends on them being responsive to bosses, clients and customers (particularly in the current economy). The boats that add Internet service are going to expand their available market and comparing the responses here to those on the same subject as recently as two years ago, when the uninterested and adamantly opposed significantly outnumbered those who were interested, I doubt the Excel will be the only boat in the fleet to take this step.

    The best argument I heard against having Internet on board was from a father who said long range trips are the only time he could get his kid away from the computer. That resonated, and I'm sure plenty of boats will stay old school, but for many of us this will be an excellent reason to get out on a few more trips

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    I am so against this. I spend most of my day and sometimes nights chained to my client beck and call. I fish to go away away from it all. Don't want it around. I see that alot of folks, feel different, but for me its the third rail of death to a good time away from it all. JMO

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