KONA Charter

**grapeavetape** · Oct-26-2008, 07:51 PM

Some advice... Save your 700.00 bucks and come back in the middle of July. Somewhere around the full moon phase. Thats the best time to bring youngsters. They have a way better chance at hooking a bigger and wider variety of fish.

**out of reach** · Oct-27-2008, 12:36 PM

I hear ya. I know the timing wasn't right. We just went fishing this wasn't a fishing trip.

Originally Posted by grapeavetape

Some advice... Save your 700.00 bucks and come back in the middle of July. Somewhere around the full moon phase. Thats the best time to bring youngsters. They have a way better chance at hooking a bigger and wider variety of fish.

**captjim** · Oct-27-2008, 02:56 PM

Check out Jim Rizzuto's (did I spell it right this time, Jim?) column today. See the bucket story.

index.html

Originally Posted by out of reach

I hear ya. I know the timing wasn't right. We just went fishing this wasn't a fishing trip.

**out of reach** · Oct-28-2008, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by captjim

Check out Jim Rizzuto's (did I spell it right this time, Jim?) column today. See the bucket story.

index.html

The section there called "making smiles" is interesting as-well.

I'll say it again the owner tried to make things right. Had a very long talk with him and he would do ANYTHING to make his customers happy - seemed like a very good guy. The trip he had planned for us would of cost him money. I will say, talk to your captain and make sure you are on the same page.

Addicted2fishin,

It was amazing from the air just how little the coast has been developed, but I guess thats all relative. We were constantly told about the "local spots, hidden beaches" as we flew around, don't think they will be local spots for long. Didn't know that there was a cattle ranch on the island larger than Oahu.

I found this interesting as-well-

That lumpy form rising out of the sea on the southeast horizon is Niihau, a privately held island as inaccessible to the public as any place in the United States.

About 600 Polynesians with a fraction of Japanese ancestry live on the 18-mile-long island in 19th-century Hawaiian style, speaking the Hawaiian language in everyday life. They have no electricity, running water, liquor or firearms. There is no jail, nor are there police officers, and the Congregational minister, who is one of them, is the arbiter of disputes.

**FishingHawaii** · Oct-28-2008, 05:33 PM

If you are planning a trip to Kona, I strongly recommend that you get a copy of The Kona Fishing Chronicles. You'll get a good overall view of all of the kinds of fishing options, read stories about many of Kona's most successful fishermen, and get contact information for dozens of fishing providers. One $16 investment could save a lot of money and help steer you toward a happy experience. If you like the stories and fishing tips you find at index.html, you'll enjoy the books. Jim Rizzuto

**kapnd** · Oct-30-2008, 04:48 AM

Hey, post it on "cryingtowel.com"!!
We all know about the bad days, been there, done that.
The owner can do nothing to "make it right" other than piss off his crew by having them work a day for free.
I would offer you another day of fishing at the regular price.
Suck up, pal, do your homework (read the fishing reports), and book another trip!

**out of reach** · Oct-30-2008, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by kapnd

Hey, post it on "cryingtowel.com"!!
We all know about the bad days, been there, done that.
The owner can do nothing to "make it right" other than piss off his crew by having them work a day for free.
I would offer you another day of fishing at the regular price.
Suck up, pal, do your homework (read the fishing reports), and book another trip!

F-You. Read the whole post. You wern't there. I know how the fishing thing works. Oh and F- you.

Edit: My info on the other options came directly from the boat " if we would of known"

Prior to the trip I asked " is this enought time" answer was yes. On the boat I was told " only if we has more time" but then is was too late. I heard about how they made bait prior to the trips, on this trip we beat the crew to the boat. It goes on...

By the way it wasn't a money thing, a mis-understanding that I made clear by now.

BTW I still left them a tip.

I posted to help someone in the future, not to bash anyone.

**captjim** · Oct-31-2008, 12:38 AM

FYI.... I don't know of any boat in the harbor that makes bait and then returns to the harbor to pick up a charter. The technique here for bait making is to troll with artificials and to keep a bait rod (or 2) handy if a school or a bird pile is spotted. Some will go right to the FADs with the hope bait will be holding there. The problem with that is that the bill collectors are usually there as well. We just don't have the structure of a coastal shelf that attracts bait consistanly. We have to hunt for it.

You might want to also consider that tourism is down nearly 40% on this island. Its easy to understand why a captain might not discourage a potential charter. If he told you fishing was hot...shame on him. If he said fishing in Kona is always a hit or miss situation, he'd be telling it straight.

Just out of curiosity, did you see and signs of other life such as porpoise schools or pilot whales? Hey, it's a day on the water and you don't really go fishing just to catch fish.

Originally Posted by out of reach

F-You. Read the whole post. You wern't there. I know how the fishing thing works. Oh and F- you.

Edit: My info on the other options came directly from the boat " if we would of known"

Prior to the trip I asked " is this enought time" answer was yes. On the boat I was told " only if we has more time" but then is was too late. I heard about how they made bait prior to the trips, on this trip we beat the crew to the boat. It goes on...

By the way it wasn't a money thing, a mis-understanding that I made clear by now.

BTW I still left them a tip.

I posted to help someone in the future, not to bash anyone.

**kapnd** · Oct-31-2008, 07:22 AM

Cant imagine why you would offer me sex after what I told you!
You are clearly a poor sport, and if you cant handle getting skunked occasionally, would probably be in better company on the golf course...
Leave your bad day behind!

**out of reach** · Oct-31-2008, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by kapnd

Cant imagine why you would offer me sex after what I told you!
You are clearly a poor sport, and if you cant handle getting skunked occasionally, would probably be in better company on the golf course...
Leave your bad day behind!

I never once complained about not catching fish. You missed the whole point. I've tried not to be a smart ass and and just tell it like it is.

The bait thing is how the same company talked about their operation, but that was how they did it on another island. And I assumed.... I made it clear that the main problem was probably communication....

To everyone that had something constructive to say, thank you, I will know better next time. I got out on the water anyway... If you knew me you would know that I would have fun in 15' seas with 30 knots of wind and a skunk, I have a good time when fishing. Wished things might of been done a little different to get the nephews on something.

To Kapnd,

I'll be on Oahu shortly, i'll bring flowers.. You need to work on your reading comprehension. I've heard you're a nice guy but was told never fall asleep on my stomach around you - I guess it was a inside joke.