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Old Apr-26-2010, 09:50 PM
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Name: David
Vessel: 28' Skipjack
Location: Irvine
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Originally Posted by middleofnowhere View Post
I would start out with shorter trips, like go out of Newport or Long Beach and fish the flats or the oil derecks. Get a feel for the water and the conditions in the channel morning vs. afternoon.
Baby steps first.
Ditto.... learn your boat and how it handles the conditions, plus you'll better understand your range. You've likely heard it before, but max 25% fuel burn out, 25% in the zone, 25% to return with 25% in reserve. With only 35 gallons, that's not much range and Cat is simply too far without other tanks/bladders.
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Old Apr-26-2010, 10:33 PM
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Name: Al
Vessel: Knock Knock...
Location: SGV, United States of America
Job:Fish Whisperer
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First off, welcome to BLOODYDECKS.

Everything said above is excellent information. Highly recommend to buddy boat with someone who has accomplished many crossings just to make the trip more pleasant. Don't get caught up with the excitement of fishing for Yellows or any other fish that gets you "Pumped up." The season is just starting off.

Safety first and if you're in doubt, wait it out.

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Old Apr-27-2010, 02:09 AM
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Name: Jon
Age: 29
Vessel: 22ft Pennyan Name-Sunk Once
Location: Covina, CA
Job:General Manager
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Thanks for all the replys/ greatly appreciated and I will print and study everything mentioned. Our boating experience would be considered beginner. We have fished between newport, long beach, marina del ray, the flats, rigs, and horshoe and fermin Kelp. We have a good feel for the boat and what it can and cant handle. I know we can make it there on one tank and we would definately plan on filling up there before we come back. We have taken it out trolled across newport and huntington opened it up to Fermin Kelp and surrounding area stopped in long beach harbor for some pizza and come back to newport all in one tank. The motor was rebuilt about 4 years ago and has almost 100 hours on it. Just did an oil change about 3 months ago along with installing center rise manifolds, extra battery w/a-b switch, new plugs and wires, new ignition coil, re-timed, brand new belts, a new impeller, and all that good stuff just so we can have confidence in its mechanical operation. so fuel consumption I would say is great.

We have a hand held GPS we use, no chart plotter. Batteries are great. have a hand help ship to shore that can be used with batteries or plugged into the lighter socket we put in. Not sure the GPH on our bilge pump but it works great and we are adding an additional one just to be safe. we have an air horn no flares..yet.. and no glow sticks...yet.... we have a good anchor and plenty of rope. we have a small tool box on board with enough tools to fix most things on the boat including fuses wire connectors, wire, random bolts nuts, and screws, wrenches, sockets etc. Had to rebuild our water pump about 4 months ago on the boat when the impeller fell apart on us. glad we had all the tools we needed already on board including silicone and "form-gasket" I am a mechanic in a field that requires a ton of preventative maintenance so I am very observative about taking care of things before they have a chance to go bad.

Lol, yeah you scared the Shit out of me when I saw how long your check list was. however after breaking it down its really not that bad.

We do not plan on traveling at night or in the fog. We plan on leaving early where we are able to see good not marginal vision and renting a moor for the night and coming back in the morning. But we also want to be safe about this especially being out first trip out. We will have to see if we know anybody else with a boat that wants to fish so we can buddy boat

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Old Apr-27-2010, 07:43 AM
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Name: Alan
Vessel: Skipjack 25
Location: Ventura
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Pick a good weather day and have fun. Sounds like you have a few things to get and are ready to go.

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Old Apr-27-2010, 08:19 AM
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Name: Scott
Vessel: 19.655' Aluminum
Location: Laguna Percebu Baja Norte
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35 gallons is not going to be enough fuel for that boat.
I would suggest making the crossing the 1st time with a "buddy boat".
Do you have a drift sock or have a couple 5 gallon buckets and some dock line?
If you're broke down mid channel sock or bucket will keep your bow into the wind until VA shows up, thus keeping water from coming over the stern or side rails, also makes it much more comfortable while waiting for assistance.
Do you have a good VHF radio & antenna?
Do you have a back up hand held VHF?
Do you have a chartplotter?
Can you read a compass so that you know your heading going and returning from Cat incase you lose your electronics?
Do you have a hand held GPS for back up?
Does the boat have at least one 1100 GPH bilge pump?
Do you have a back up hand operated bilge pump?
Do you have a full set of Coast Guard flares, whistle, horn?
Do you have flashlights or glowsticks incase you're broke down in the dark?
Do you have a small tool box with a variety of hand tools, elect tape, duct tape, zip ties, fuses....etc?
Do you have a detailed map of Catalina Island and local Southern California inshore buoy's / hazards?
Do you have a good anchor, at least 150 ft of rope & chain?
Do you have a back up anchor?
Is the boat's battery in good operating condition?
When was the last time the boats raw water pump impellor changed?
Are the belts and hoses in excellent condition (free of visual cracks)?
What condition on the trailer are the springs, tires, wheel bearing, hitch, brakes, bunks, winch, & lights in?
This is a good site: Southern California Marine Weather Forecast | BUOYWEATHER.COM
This is a good site: National Weather Service - NWS Los Angeles/Oxnard
Do you have a responsible person to give your "float plan" information to prior to departure, and can they make the call to the authorities (VA and-or CG) if you're much later than expected (3-4 hrs)
All things listed above are what we consider prior to leaving the harbor, no matter what our destination may be.

One last thing............
35 gallons is not going to be enough fuel for that boat.
Brandon is now the undisputed expert on crossing the channel...

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Old Apr-27-2010, 08:22 AM
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Name: Mika Tan
Vessel: 15' Bayrunner "NoZilla"
Location: HB
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Brandon is now the undisputed expert on crossing the channel...


One more thing, bring a scuba mask.

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Old Apr-27-2010, 08:29 AM
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Name: Felonius Punk
Vessel: "Finstant Gratification" 18'11" Gregor
Location: Groom Lake
Job:DARPA/TTO
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Brandon is now the undisputed expert on crossing the channel...
How many batteries does it take to get there and back using only the trolling motor?

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Old Apr-27-2010, 08:36 AM
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Name: Erol
Age: 44
Vessel: Parker 2120
Location: So Cal
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I agree with brandon not enough fuel

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Old Apr-27-2010, 08:42 AM
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Name: Chris
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I'll add a few more things in addition to Brandon:

Do you have enough Type 1 Offshore PFD's?
Jump pack for you Batterys
Charts
Vessel Assist or Sea Tow
First aid kit
Additional food/water
shelter i.e. a tarp for the boat in case your floating for awhile w/o power
ditch bag
wet suit
prop wrench/xtra prop
etc, etc,....
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Old Apr-27-2010, 08:48 AM
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no flares..yet......
You should have had those even before you went out on your local trips.

I would get a fuel flow system on your boat. That's the best way to know what kind of fuel consumption your getting. You'd be suprised how your mpg can change while your working into a head swell as you cross the channel. It could eat up that 35 gallons real quick.

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