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Old Feb-05-2012, 05:35 PM
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There are 3 proposals in front of the Commission now. Unfortunately, none of them involve a slot limit. At this week's Commission meeting my wife, representing Sportfishing Conservancy, put forth a proposal recommending a slot limit on top of proposed size and bag limit reductions. Who knows what will happen with that, but she's well regarded by the Commission.

SAC testified that a 13" size limit alone would reduce take by 80%. They may have thought that sounded good, but when you think about it, it really says alot on how bad it really is out there.

Enforcement problems arise due to the fact that sportboats filet for money while at sea. Even leaving a patch of skin, they do have problems discerning between spotted and sand bass. I never knew sportboats fish for spotted, but I'm told they get them. Also, the minimum filet size can be met (cheating) through finer cutting. IMO, they should just ban fileting bass at sea.

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Old Feb-06-2012, 03:38 PM
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Its gotta stop being a meat fishery. We need to go to straight C & R. Impose regs during spawning season.

See WSB fishery for proof......
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Old Feb-06-2012, 03:41 PM
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Its gotta stop being a meat fishery. We need to go to straight C & R. Impose regs during spawning season.

See WSB fishery for proof......
WSB rebound is a direct result of the gill net ban imo.
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Old Feb-06-2012, 05:57 PM
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After the MLPAs work thier magic we'll have plenty of bass. Mike

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Old Feb-07-2012, 08:06 AM
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The Department gave one of the best presentations I have seen from them on this subject at the MRC. A copy of the report is available here: http://www.fgc.ca.gov/meetings/2012/011812mrcitem4.pdf

From that report I have taken three slides they presented. One on which method the Bass are taken by most, and two on how each proposed regulation might reduce the catch.

The picture below shows what percentage each method of take accounts for in the total.
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The picture below shows the percent reduction in catch by implementing different bag limits. You will notice there is minimal change until you reduce the bag limit to 3 fish for Calico and Sand Bass. There is very little impact on Spotted Bass as they are mostly catch and release with few being kept already.
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The department stated the average angler over time only retains 5 fish that is why you do not see a reduction in take increase until the bag limit is reduced to 3.

The picture below shows the reduction by implementing different minimum size limits. You can see even a 1" increase in the minimum size provides similar reductions to a 5 bag limit, and 2" reducing the catch more than a 3 bag limit in most cases.
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Unfortunately the slide showing a slot limit is not available to me now they showed it in the meeting having a 13" to 17" slot had less impact than a 14" minimum as I remember. The theory at the time from the Department was there may be some difficulty in enforcing a Slot limit also.

I also have talked to many spearfishermen and having a slot limit to try to measure under water while pursuing a fish would be difficult.

I did not take the opportunity to ask for the presentation to include the possible reduction in catch that the MLPA has given but I will try to have this presented also. The species of most concern is Sand Bass and the "MLPA did not cover much Sand" was said at the meeting.
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Old Feb-07-2012, 11:52 AM
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I agree with a increase in minimum length to 13 inches, But frankly they can go fuck themselves

The MLPA was supposed to address this issue. So let it fix it... (weather you believe it will or not)

Not like there angler data is going to be to reliable in the future, Most fisherman out there wont tell them anything, the MLPA is created a distrust between government and fisherman.

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